WHAT MAGNESIUM REALLY DOES IN YOUR BODY | “THE WELLZEST PODCAST” — WITH NATALIE JURADO

[00:00:04] Speaker A: Hi, everyone. Welcome back to the WellZest podcast. And today you are in for an epic episode because I have Natalie Jurado here and she is an incredible magnesium expert. Natalie is also the founder of Rooted in, and she actually discovered the power of this mineral through her health and personal journey. I'm going to read the rest of Natalie's bio so you get the inside scoop on this amazing expert that I have sitting with me. So, Natalie, after years of struggling with anxiety, chronic pain, insomnia, she found relief by using magnesium topically. Today, she's on a mission to help others understand the importance of magnesium, simplify the often confusing information around it, and to empower people to improve their health naturally. Wow, wow, wow. Natalie, welcome to the podcast. I'm so excited to have you. [00:00:57] Speaker B: Thank you so much for having me on. I am so excited to talk about my absolute favorite topic in the world, magnesium. [00:01:03] Speaker A: I am so jazzed too. And I was just, we were just talking. I was like admitting to Natalie, I was like, hey, I was low key following you all around the interwebs, all around the socials, because you are the go to person for magnesium and you know, the information that you provide, breaking it down with all the different types of magnesium, I feel like there's a lot of confusion out there is incredible. So what I always like to do, just to dive in is to get your, I'll call it origin story. You know, your background, how you even, you know, came to this. So take me back a few years. You know, what were you doing before you really got into magnesium and you started your company rooted in. And what was life like before all this? [00:01:45] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. I love that. The origin story. That's a great. So, you know, like most things, it started with a problem, right? So it was about 10 years ago and I was really, really struggling. I was having a really hard time sleeping, often getting about two hours of sleep a night. I struggled with awful anxiety and it led to panic attacks. And as a mom of two small kids at the time, it was really difficult to not only manage them to work, to drive, to even go to the grocery store, it was just a terrible, awful sensation. And I was doing everything they tell you to do. So I was eating the good healthy diet, I was exercising regularly, trying to manage my stress. Like, I checked all of the boxes, so I couldn't figure out why I still felt this way. So I did what any normal person would do and I went straight to my doctor and I said, hey, doc, I need you to fix me. What's going on. And she offered every single test under the sun. I gave so much blood, it was awful. But at the end of the day, she sat me down, she looked me straight in the face, and she said, natalie, there is absolutely nothing wrong with you. All of your blood work is perfect. You're normal. And it was the worst, best thing that could possibly happen to me. Right? On one side, I'm like, yes, I'm healthy. The blood work says everything's fine. But the other side, I'm like, I just can't continue to live like this. And through a wild turn of events, I was at a farmer's market. There was an older lady there. We started chatting, and she told me about magnesium. And I went straight to the health food store, bought some magnesium oil, put it all over my skin, and within a week, I went from sleeping six hours a night to sleep. I'm sorry, two hours a night to sleeping six hours a night. So huge jump in my sleep. Anxiety started going away. Haven't had a single panic attack since. But it got me thinking, like, why aren't we talking about magnesium? Like, why, why? Why Isn't, like, being reached from the rooftops? Like, it's such a big, big issue? [00:03:43] Speaker A: Absolutely. That's amazing. Some random woman at the farmer's market. I mean, what farmer's market is this? I need to go there. Like, that's amazing. Were you skeptical at first when the person at the farmer's market told you about, hey, go get magnesium oil? Were you like, I don't really know what they're talking about, or were you just at the point where you were just so desperate and ready for change that you were open to trying anything? [00:04:07] Speaker B: Yeah. At the time, I was going down the rabbit hole of alternative therapies, so. So, you know, I was doing chiropractic and acupuncture. I was meeting with the nutritionist. I mean, I was just trying desperately to find a solution. So when she told me, you know, just try some magnesium on your skin, I'm like, lady, I would stand upside down on my head and say the Alphabet backwards if you're telling me it's going to help me sleep. [00:04:30] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh, I love it. I love it. You know, there's an old adage. It's like, you never know who's going to provide wisdom and, you know, always take what people say, you know, no matter, like, where they are, like, they have wisdom to share. So take it to heart, because sometimes people have, you know, advice that will literally change your life. So you talk about not sleeping and panic attacks. What were some other symptoms of magnesium deficiency that you had? [00:05:00] Speaker B: Absolutely. So magnesium deficiency is often referred to as the invisible deficiency because it's overlooked. It's something that people kind of brush off because the symptoms are so varied. So it's everything from difficulty falling asleep or staying asleep to headaches and migraines, restless legs, hormonal imbalance, muscle cramps, menstrual pain and cramping, muscle pain and inflammation in your joints. So it's just such a wide variety of symptoms that people often think that it's something else or they'll pinpoint something else as the cause of it. [00:05:39] Speaker A: Right, right, right. So interesting. You know, when you went to the doctor and they were telling you, no, you're fine, you know, everything's. How did you feel in that moment? And, you know, I think a lot of times, coming from the framework, I feel like, especially as women, we're often dismissed, you know, in medical care situations. How did that make you feel? And, you know, how were you able to navigate the complexities of that situation, given that you were feeling so, you know, you were feeling so poorly? [00:06:13] Speaker B: Well, the funny thing is, my doctor was. And she was a woman. And so she knows what she was actually a woman about my age. And she. The funny thing is, she tells me, well, you know, Natalie, this is very common for a woman of your age. As we get older, it's harder for us to sleep. We feel more anxious. And she just blamed it on my age. And so one of the things that I did when I got home was to look into whether this happens in other countries. Like, are other countries around the world dealing with, you know, perimenopause and menopause and the change that comes with age? Are they dealing with it the same way that we are? And I found that they aren't. And so I thought, there's got to be. There's a disconnect here. There's got to be a reason why we are dealing with this in the United States and it's not happening in other places. And that really kind of made a light bulb go off for me. And it made me decide that my doctor's version of normal doesn't have to be my version of normal. I love that it's very different than hers. [00:07:10] Speaker A: I love that. You know, I love that. Because it's funny, I was having, you know, conversations with girlfriends who are, like, in their 40s and, you know, feeling a variety of different ways. And the number one thing that I continue to hear over and over from them is, oh, a woman in your age, this is normal. You know, and I love the fact that you pushed back and, you know, said, hey, like this, this is not my normal. I want to feel healthy and vibrant, and I think it's an important message for everyone to be your own advocate and to define what normal feels like for you and to try to keep exploring those holistic and alternative ways to get to a place where you feel good, you know, or you feel you're optimal given the situation that you're actually in. Why is it such a problem in the US I'm just curious, in the research and what you found, you know, what are other countries doing that we're not doing in the United States, does it come down to food, Soil? Walk me through that a bit. [00:08:10] Speaker B: Yeah, that is a loaded question. In the United States, about 70% of the population fails to get enough magnesium in their diet every single day. So. So when we think about that, that's seven out of 10 people who are just not getting enough magnesium. So the next question is, why? Like, why aren't we getting enough magnesium? And part of what you said is so true. It is the soil. You know, our farming practices are just awful compared to what they were 50 and 100 years ago. Nowadays, I can get an apple in the middle of summer and an orange in the middle of winter, and that's not. That's not the way we're supposed to eat. Furthermore, you know, produce that's picked on one side of the country is shipped all the way to the other side of the country. And by the time we eat it, it's weeks, if not a month later. And the nutrition in our food goes down dramatically with time. We're seeing that our food isn't quite as nutritious. We're seeing that our farming practices, they're turning over the soil faster and faster. So our soil is depleted of minerals and nutrients, so our food isn't what it used to be. Then we pair that with the standard American diet, that standard of sad. [00:09:18] Speaker A: The sad, sad it is. [00:09:23] Speaker B: It's funny because, you know, I have kids and myself, we eat very healthy in our home. And the amount of times our kids have brought friends over and they're like, what are you eating? What is that? And I'm like, it's just a vegetable. You know, like, it's odd to see somebody eating healthy in the United States. It's strange. It's different. And so, you know, the more of that standard American diet that we eat, the less nutrition that we're. And then we also pair that with the fact that the more sugar you eat, the more magnesium you're going to deplete. So for every one molecule of sugar that you consume, it takes 54 molecules of magnesium to balance that out. So we eat a high sugar diet in the United States and it really affects our magnesium levels 100%. [00:10:08] Speaker A: You know, I look back, my dad's from Nigeria and that whole set of the family is from there. And I look back to the way my grandmother in Nigeria lived in her village. I mean, you know, fresh vegetables, organic meat. Because literally the chickens like running in the street and they, you know, that's the chicken for dinner. And when my dad came to the U.S. you know, he would make his traditional food, you know, that it was high in leafy green cruciferous vegetables and leafy greens, you know, high in tomato based or, you know, different seeds and things like that, you know, grounded into, you know, like a spinach dish called a goosey, for example. And as a kid, you know, I feel like probably similar to your kids. Kids will come over to our house and they're like, you know, where are the, like, Doritos or the, you know, Ho Hos or whatever? You know, of course we had some of those things, but, you know, then I didn't understand. I was like, oh, man, we are always eating like this weird, you know, this food that's curry based and whatnot. That wasn't cool. But it's something I'm actually so grateful for, you know, because of the nutrient density of a lot of the food, the traditional Nigerian foods that we were given growing up. And it's so, so important, you know, just curious, why is magnesium deficiency so overlooked? Why isn't it something that you feel like doctors look to test for first? [00:11:38] Speaker B: So that is the biggest issue that we deal with when it comes to magnesium is that you. It's very difficult to diagnose it. So the National Institute of Health has said that there is no reliable test for magnesium deficiency. And the reason, it's because, like, for instance, if you, you know, your listeners are here and they're listening and they hear this crazy magnesium lady going on about magnesium, and they run to their doctor and they say, doc, I need you to test me for low magnesium. Your doctor is going to offer you what's called a magnesium serum test, and that's testing how much magnesium is in your blood. However, about 60% of your body's magnesium is stored in your bones. About 40% of it is in your Muscles, tissues, and organs, leaving less than 1% in your blood. So if we're looking at our blood for, for, for. As a marker for magnesium deficiency, it's not telling us much. In fact, you can be chronically deficient for years before it ever shows up in your blood. [00:12:39] Speaker A: Wow. Wow. So then you're really at a place where you're stuck. Would you say that it's recognizing the symptoms and then testing to see if magnesium helps? Is that really the path to kind of move forward if you, you know, if someone's kind of in the situation that you are, they're struggling with panic attacks, can't sleep, you know, and a whole host of other symptoms, you hit. [00:13:04] Speaker B: The nail on the head with exactly what you said that even the National Institute of Health, that is what they recommend, they say go based off of your symptoms, supplement with magnesium. If those symptoms go away, you know that it was just magnesium deficiency that you were dealing with. And thankfully, magnesium is safe, it's affordable. It's not like something you've spent thousands of dollars on or anything like that. And it's readily available at most places. [00:13:29] Speaker A: Wow. What are. Just to be clear, like, what are some other, other symptoms that our viewers should be looking for other than sleep and panic attack? Like, what else could be a sign? Like, hey, your body is craving, it's yelling for magnesium. [00:13:45] Speaker B: So some of the more noticeable signs are going to be fatigue. So if you, if you are hitting that 3 o' clock wall, you know, in the afternoon, and you just feel exhausted all day long, and then you have a hard time sleeping at night, you kind of feel like it's this vicious cycle. That's a clear sign that you want to look into magnesium. Other lesser known signs are actually high blood pressure, high cholesterol, thyroid issues, and hormonal imbalance. The reason, yeah, it's wild. The reason being is because magnesium is involved in over 700 different biochemical reactions in our body. So there's 700 things that depend on magnesium in order to work. And so when you don't have that, it's almost like that linchpin in your body. When that is missing, your body doesn't work the way it's supposed to. So. So one of the things it does is it helps lower blood pressure. It also helps regulate your blood sugar. It also helps bring down cholesterol because it's involved in all of those functions. [00:14:41] Speaker A: Wow. I just think about how many people, literally, I'm shaking my head, who I know personally, who have thyroid issues, hormonal imbalance, High blood pressure, so on and so forth. And never once have I heard magnesium as a potential remedy in the conversations that they've had with their medical providers. Just saying. So. So incredibly interesting. Wow, wow, wow. Now you know what I realized. Let me just back up a second. We're talking about magnesium, and we're kind of coming from a place of knowing the baseline of what it is. But I would love from you to ask a very simple question. What is magnesium? What are the different types? I've seen magnesium citrate, magnesium add. There's a ton of different ones. Yeah. Explain what magnesium is. What are some of the body functions that it is involved in? You mentioned a few, but would love to know the rest and then break down the different types for us. That would be really helpful. [00:15:40] Speaker B: Sure. So magnesium, all it is, is a mineral. It's not addictive, it's not a drug. It's nothing like that. It's simply a mineral that's typically found in our food and in our water. So when it comes to food, it's your green leafy vegetables, your nuts, your seeds, your chia seeds, your pumpkin seeds, those kind of foods that we typically don't get enough of every day. Those are the foods that have magnesium. In addition, magnesium is also found in our water. And when we think about our water, you know, hundreds of years ago, we would drink water from springs and rivers, and that's where we got mineral water from. Right? And we would drink this water. We would get our minerals from our water. We would also bathe in rivers and streams, and we'd absorb those minerals through our skin as well. So we were able to get it not only from bathing, from drinking, but also from our food. Nowadays, we drink water that is highly processed and highly purified, and those minerals are stripped from our water. We also bathe in that as well. And then, of course, like we said earlier, our food is just. Just terribly low in these minerals nowadays. So we're really. It really is a struggle to get more magnesium in your life. Um, so. But it's just a mineral, and. And it's one of those things that our body does not create. So it's not like vitamin D or melatonin, where your body creates that. Magnesium has to be gotten from an external source. So we've got to get it from our food and our water in order to survive. Basically, it's an. It's present in every single one of our trillions of cells. And literally, without magnesium, we would cease to live like it is that vital to our Bodies. It is something we, we need, we desperately need in order for our body to work properly. So simple, mineral, nothing fancy, nothing addictive. So nothing like that. The problem is when people want to start getting their magnesium levels up, they immediately run out to the store and they buy a supplement, right? The problem is they'll go to the health food store and they see this like giant aisle worth of magnesium supplements and they get super overwhelmed and walk, walk right out the store. [00:17:40] Speaker A: Miss Girl. Yup. I was like, wait, there's magnesium citrate, malatate, this one, that one. I was like, what is happening? There's, you know, even dosage amounts, like, yes, this was me. [00:17:54] Speaker B: It can really trip people up. And that is, I think that is the biggest stumbling block between people getting magnesium. So a couple things that you want to do. I like to call it my three step plan for getting magnesium into your body. Step one, eat the foods. Gotta eat the good foods, right? We gotta eat all the good stuff. You have to avoid the sugar. Also avoid the caffeine and alcohol, which also deplete magnesium. I know that's the fun stuff. Killjoy every time I say that, but I mean it. Does it deplete? They're diuretics. They're going to pull magnesium out of your system. So. So it's one of those things in moderation, of course. Everything should be in moderation. But we want to eat the good stuff, we want to avoid the bad stuff. That's just, you know, a baseline. But it's very difficult to get enough magnesium through diet alone. Like for, for reference, in order to get enough magnesium, you would have to eat 10 cups of raw spinach a day. And I love that. But yeah, that's not happening. [00:18:50] Speaker A: No, ain't nobody got time for that. That's crazy. That would be like eating one of those huge car. I buy those cartons from Whole Foods of spinach. That's crazy. That takes me like a week to finish that, you know, if not more. Oh, yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly. [00:19:05] Speaker B: It's just, it's just very difficult to get it from our food. So our next step is, of course, to get it in our skin. And one of the easiest ways to do this, and this is something that everybody can go out and do tonight. So the easiest thing you can do is buy yourself a bag of Epsom salt from the grocery store. They have it at the dollar store, they have it at your pharmacy. Epsom salt is magnesium sulfate. If you look at the back, that's what it says, right? So, yeah, taking a bath In Epsom salt was going to give magnesium to all of your cells. Or if you don't have a bathtub, not everybody has one. So soaking your feet in Epsom salt with some warm water can also bring magnesium to your body. It mimics those rivers and streams that we used to swim in many years ago. So that's a great way, especially if you have small children or if you have. If you're pregnant or if you're just wary of taking supplements, getting in those Epsom salt baths two to three times a week can be very helpful and very effective. [00:20:00] Speaker A: Whoa. I feel like the. The emoji of the brain, like, you know, blowing. I'm like, what? I have, actually, I have a whole bunch of Epsom salts. I've just been like, sitting on, done and done. I am going to do that. That's so. That's. So that's such an actionable tip. That's amazing. I had no idea. What are the different types of magnesium? So you mentioned. I heard you mentioned a few. Magnesium citrate is the one I always see. Sulfate malatate is that one. If you could walk me through the different kinds, that would be great. And then when to use which type of magnesium. [00:20:35] Speaker B: Sure. So that would be step three. So if you've eaten the food, you've done the Epsom salt baths and got it on your skin, you're still not feeling well. So next step three is to get those magnesium supplements. And There are over 4, 14 different forms of magnesium, which is why people get so confused. So the one takeaway that I want everybody to have while listening to this, if you just know this one thing, you are leaps and bounds ahead of everybody else, and that is to avoid magnesium oxide. So magnesium oxide is the cheapest, most readily available, most prescribed form of magnesium out there, and it is the worst form you can possibly take. It only absorbs at a rate of 4. 4%, which means when you take it, you absorb 4%. The other 96% is going to go right through your bowels, through your digestive tract, and for many people, have them in the bathroom all day long. So when I. No one wants that. [00:21:27] Speaker A: No one wants that. No one's signing up for that. [00:21:32] Speaker B: So. And it's funny, because when people come to me and they say, well, I tried magnesium, but, you know, it messed up my stomach. And I'm like, wait, what type did you try? And 99% of the time they tell me they tried oxide. And that's the reason why. So if we avoid oxide, we're knocking off much of what we're going to see at the pharmacies and at the health food stores. So the other types that are available that are much, much, much better than oxide are magnesium glycinate. This is typically taken if you have a hard time sleeping. So the reason why is it's magnesium that's bound to the amino acid glycine. And magnesium is going to help you with sleep, but that glycine is also going to make you a little sleepy. So when you combine those two and have magnesium glycinate, you're getting a little bit of sleepiness from both of those components. So magnesium glycinate tends to work really well for sleep. Magnesium malate, that one works very well for energy. So if you tend to be fatigued, malate is really good to take during the day. It's also very good for muscle pain. So a lot of people who have fibromyalgia or any kind of chronic pain, they typically do well with magnesium malate. Magnesium citrate, like you mentioned, tends to do really well if you're, if you have digestive issues. So if you're dealing with constipation, citrate can be very good at helping kind of move things along, keep you regular so that you're not feeling so bloated and backed up all the time. And then we've got magnesium taurate, which is typically used for heart health. So if you have heart conditions, if you have arrhythmias or heart palpitations, they will typically recommend magnesium taurate. And then the last one is magnesium threonate. And threonate is good for memory and brain health. And so if you tend to be foggy during the day, threonate is a really good option. But I would caution you that it is very expensive. It is the most expensive form of magnesium out there. So I typically don't recommend that one unless you've got, unless you, you have a pretty good budget for your supplements. [00:23:25] Speaker A: Wow. So you would recommend, you know, taking, figuring out what your core symptom is. You know, if it's sleep, it's glycinate. You know, if it's. So really doing a self assessment and then testing into the different types based on, you know, your biggest symptom at the time. Is that correct? Is that what you would recommend to do? [00:23:45] Speaker B: Absolutely, yes. Go, go. Based off. And many of us are, well, I have anxiety and I can't sleep, or I have muscle cramps and I can't sleep. And that's perfectly fine as long as you're getting magnesium into your system, you're gonna be good. It's gonna help you no matter what the type. The types just kind of give you a little edge in that department. So you can still take glycinate. If you're dealing with anxiety, it's gonna help with anxiety. But that glycine might give you a little sleepy edge. That's all. [00:24:08] Speaker A: Got it. Got it. Dearly noted. Now, food. So we kind of talked a little bit about leafy green vegetables. Like, what are other foods that are really high in magnesium? [00:24:18] Speaker B: So chia seeds and pumpkin seeds are great ones. I love doing the chia puddings in the morning. Those are delicious and they're really fun. And if you don't like texture, one thing I've learned, because chia seeds can kind of give you that weird texture kind of thing, if you're a texture person, you actually throw that in a blender and it gets rid of the texture and you still need. [00:24:36] Speaker A: So never done that. That's so smart. [00:24:38] Speaker B: So chia seeds are great. Pumpkin seeds are great. You know, throwing a handful on your salads every day, that's a wonderful way to get those pumpkin seeds into you. Another one that I love is coconut water. Coconut water is not only high in magnesium, but it's also high in potassium. Potassium. So potassium and magnesium like to work together in our body. They're like best friends. So when you. When you supplement with magnesium, it's also good to supplement with potassium as well, because it's another electrolyte that our body really needs. So coconut water is a great way to kind of knock both of them out at the same time. And it's fun, it's refreshing, it's. It's. I'm a big fan of coconut water. [00:25:11] Speaker A: So, so good. [00:25:14] Speaker B: It is. It really is. One thing that I see all the time, though, is people saying, oh, you should use Celtic salt or Celtic salt minerals. And they say, oh, it's very, very magnesium rich. And technically, it is magnesium rich when you think about how much magnesium is in a grain of salt. But you would have to use something like a half a cup of salt just to get all the magnesium you need in one day. And I strongly do not recommend that. [00:25:37] Speaker A: No, that's not good. [00:25:39] Speaker B: Nope, Nope. No. So don't depend on the salt to meet your magnesium needs, but sprinkling it on your food, it's going to help every little bit. Help helps. [00:25:47] Speaker A: Good to know. I use the Celtic salts more for the iodine. I didn't know that. Also, I didn't catch that. It also had magnesium in it. But good to know. Yeah. Because no one needs like a whole pound of Celtic salt on their salad. Like, that's not. No, not a good idea. Curious. You know what? [00:26:06] Speaker B: We. [00:26:07] Speaker A: So we kind of talked about food, we talked about, you know, different applications like Epsom salts. What else do you recommend people do to increase the potency or the efficacy of the magnesium that you're taking? Like, is there. You talked about potassium, but are there other supplements that you should be taking magnesium with? [00:26:29] Speaker B: Absolutely. So there are CO factors for magnesium when you're eating, when you're getting magnesium from your food, those cofactors naturally are in those food. So you don't really have to worry about it when you're getting magnesium from food. But if you are going to take a supplement, those individual supplements have a ton of magnesium all at once. Right. So we want to make sure that we're getting our CO factors alongside of them. And they does. I don't necessarily mean you have to take a pill for every ill, but make sure that your diet is pretty varied and has some of these vitamins in them. So the cofactors are B6, Taurine and Boron. So those three work very well to help magnesium absorb better in your body. So if you're, like I said, you don't have to run out and get a B6 supplement. Every time you take a magnesium supplement, just make sure you're getting plenty of that in your diet. I always tell people, you know, you can't supplement your way out of a bad diet. It's just not happening. So make sure that you're eating a good, clean, healthy diet before you start supplementing with anything. Really. I tell people it's like you're trying to put a fire out with a water gun. So you can't do that with a supplement. Right. [00:27:40] Speaker A: Great analogy. Not going to work. Yeah, exactly. The diet is the foundation and making sure you've got a diversity of foods that are nutrient rich has to be the foundation at the end of the day. What is one magnesium myth that you would like to debunk right away? [00:27:58] Speaker B: Oh, I. This one. This one gets under my skin in just the worst way. So there is a very popular trend on social media. You're gonna see it on TikTok and Instagram and all over. And it's where people are spraying their bodies with pure magnesium chloride. [00:28:13] Speaker A: I've seen this. I have seen this. Oh, social media. [00:28:17] Speaker B: Oh, yes. They are selling magnesium oil sprays. They're selling magnesium or they'll call it a magnesium oil or a magnesium spray. And they tell you just spray your skin with it. And there's nothing wrong with doing that. Like getting magnesium chloride on your skin is phenomenal way of raising your magnesium levels. The problem I have is that in those sprays they are hyper concentrated in magnesium. And when you spray them on your skin, it can burn, itch, irritate, or even cause a rash. The biggest issue that I have is these influencers that are saying, well, if it breaks, burns, you, it's just your body telling you that you're deficient and you need more, that nothing could be further from the truth. That is not the truth whatsoever. And it can be very dangerous. I've had people reach out to me telling me that they've sprayed their feet with the magnesium oil and it's left their feet peeling skin off and just awful things like that. And of course these influencers saying, just keep doing it, just keep doing it. You should not. So the reason why this happens, the reason why some people get a reaction is because the, the ph of magnesium chloride is very different than the PH of our skin. So when you put it on your skin, it's going to cause a reaction. The way to get over this is to make sure that your magnesium chloride is blended with some kind of oil to make it more PH balanced so it's much more gentler on your skin. [00:29:41] Speaker A: Wow. Oh my goodness. Yeah. Friends, if it's burning or peeling, it's a wrap. Don't use it like so crazy. But like, hey, just double down, it's probably fine. Like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Do you recommend, you know, if someone bought one of those topical sprays, is there something they could do at home to try to make it better or is it kind of one of those things where it's like, hey, this is probably not the best move. Look for another way to get magnesium. [00:30:11] Speaker B: Yeah, they can do a couple things. So first is they could actually turn that spray into a soak and they could, you know, get a foot soak, pour a little bit of the spray into the foot soak and now you're soaking with water. Quite so irritating. Another thing they can do is mix it with a body lotion or a body oil or any kind of oil that's, that's safe for your skin, like a grapeseed oil or jojoba oil or coconut oil, anything like that. Mix it up together before you put it on your skin so it's not going to be quite so irritating as well. And then lastly, you can always spray it full. You can spray the full concentration on your skin, let it soak for 20 minutes and then shower it off, because it takes about 20 minutes for all that magnesium to get in your cells and just take it off after those 20 minutes. [00:30:51] Speaker A: Right? Right. Absolutely, absolutely. Now, if you don't want any of this guesswork, Natalie, you've developed a product rooted in is your brand. Tell me a bit about rooted in. How did you develop it? And one other question. How is founding a beauty brand in this current climate in the US where there's, you know, a million beauty products? How has that journey been for you? [00:31:16] Speaker B: Oh, great questions. So I started rooted in simply because between the oil sprays that were itching and irritating my skin, and then I would go on like Etsy to buy magnesium creams, and I didn't know how much magnesium was in there. It would be different from batch to batch. And it always felt like oily and greasy in my skin. And I live in Florida and it's hot. Nobody wants oily, greasy on their skin when it's hot and humid out. So I wanted something that worked really, really well, that was scientifically backed, and that felt good. Like, it felt like something that I looked forward to using every day. And that's what kind of stumbled into creating rooted in. So I wound up doing a little research and I'm like, I've got to. I've got to find a way to get magnesium into the hands of everybody who struggles to feel their best. So it needs to be easy, it needs to feel good, it needs to make people want to use it. And we went through two years of development with six different chemists from all around the world because they kept telling me there's no way we could add that much magnesium into one product. And eventually the sixth one actually was able to nail it. And that's how rooted in was born. We launched three years ago, we've sold out 10 times. The feedback we get is phenomenal. It's been amazing, amazing. But it's been a. Definitely been a bit of a journey. [00:32:32] Speaker A: Wow. I can only imagine. I have a brand too, and it's what were. You know, I've gone through the same thing, like working with chemists telling you, like, hey, you can't do this, you can't do that, you can't do this. What kept you going? How did you stay in? Because it's hard. It's a mental game, starting a brand, bringing a product to the market. What kept you going? [00:32:49] Speaker B: Oh, the tears. The tears. I shed. [00:32:51] Speaker A: Yeah, same, same. I was like, literally, we need a show where just founders just cry. [00:32:59] Speaker B: Sign me up. Sign me up. It was really, really tough. We also launched during the pandemic, which I don't know what I was thinking. [00:33:07] Speaker A: Me too. [00:33:08] Speaker B: Oh, you too? Okay. [00:33:09] Speaker A: Yes. [00:33:10] Speaker B: The boats getting stuck out in harbor that delayed a bunch of stuff. We couldn't get jars in. It was just. It was. It was insane. But what kept me going is there's. There's foundational studies that are showing that using 500 milligrams of magnesium chloride on your skin can significantly boost your magnesium levels. So I wanted our product to have 500 milligrams per teaspoon per use, basically. And they were saying, no, no, we can only do 200. We can only do 300. And I'm like, no, it needs to be convenient and easy to use. It's got to have that amount. Because I want my product to work unlike a lot of the other brands out there, they don't put the research into that. I wanted our product to be scientifically sound. And so I kept pushing and pushing, and I'm a woman of very, very strong faith. And so it took a lot of. A lot of me giving up and then me praying about it and saying, okay, I can't give up. I can't give up yet. And so that my faith really, really pushed me through to just keep trying until I finally, finally nailed it. [00:34:06] Speaker A: Incredible. That is incredible. And your products are so beautiful and really cool. How you know is there? I saw the cream, for example. What's the best way to use the cream? Like, is there. Do you put it all over your body? Is it better if you put it on your feet or on your hands? Walk me through the best applications. [00:34:24] Speaker B: So with our creams, you're going to want to use a teaspoon at a time because that's. That. That's that perfect amount, right? And you can simply replace it for your regular, everyday body moisturizer. Most of us use a lotion every day, right? So why not use one with superpowers, right? Use one that's going to help get your magnesium levels up. So my favorite product is the product that we created for stress. And literally, in the mornings, I get out of the shower and. And I coat my chest, my abdomen, and my shoulders, because that's where I hold the most amount of my stress. And it's like a deep breath of air, and everything's relaxed. So it's just anywhere on your skin is going to make a huge difference Amazing. [00:35:03] Speaker A: Amazing. Can you get too much magnesium? Like, can too much be a bad thing? [00:35:09] Speaker B: That is a fabulous question. So when it comes to supplementing, if you were to take a pill or a powder, the Office of Dietary Supplements says that overdose typically happens at rates of 5,000 milligrams a day. That is an absurd amount of magnesium. Nobody should be taking that much magnesium. So for reference, the rda, the recommended amount that we're told to take is anywhere from 350 to 400 milligrams. If you're taking 5,000 milligrams, that's entirely too much. Our body has a built in, what I like to call a safety mechanism. If you take too much magnesium at once, your body is going to get rid of it rather quickly. You're going to be in the bathroom all afternoon because your body gets rid of it. It's your body's way of protecting yourself. So if you take too much at once, you'll be in the bathroom, you'll have diarrhea, you'll have stomachache and that kind of thing, but you're not going to do yourself any long term harm. Of course, if you're taking that 5,000 milligrams, that's entirely too much, and nobody should do that. The other side of that is if you're using it on your skin, there is no risk of overdose. So our skin regulates how much magnesium we absorb. I like to compare this to the ocean. So if you go swimming in the ocean, oftentimes when you get off the beach, you're just so relaxed, your muscle cramps are going away, you feel amazing. And that's because the ocean is made up of 35% magnesium chloride. So that amazing feeling we have is from swimming in the ocean. But nobody in the history of time has ever said, get out of the ocean. You're getting too much magnesium. Right. Like nobody said that before. Yes, your skin regulates how much magnesium you absorb. [00:36:44] Speaker A: Wow. And the skin, you know, has just such an incredible ability to absorb. Do you think that it's just. It's better, you know, to absorb better, to use it topically, because it absorbs better. It's just easier. What are some of the other advantages of topical application of magnesium? [00:36:59] Speaker B: So it bypasses the digestive tract. So if you deal with anything like leaky gut or Crohn's disease or any kind of gut issue that's preventing you from absorbing your nutrition, using it on your skin is a fabulous way to get that system. And like I said, there's no risk for overdose so it makes it incredibly safe, and it works almost instantly. Within about five minutes, you're going to start absorbing all that magnesium. And if you were to take a pill or a powder, it takes anywhere from 20 to 45 minutes to. To kick in and start working. The other thing that makes magnesium so great when you use it on your skin is you can target different areas of your body. So let's say you're dealing with leg cramps, and those leg cramps are keeping you up all night long. If you were to take a pill, that magnesium is going to get dispersed throughout your entire body, and some of it is going to make it to that muscle tissue in your leg, only some of it, when you use it topically, you can put it right on your leg. It's going to go right into that muscle tissue and start working instantly. So we see that. We really target it wherever we need it. [00:38:00] Speaker A: Wow. And you mentioned that, you know, you really can feel results instantly. Is it one of those things where, you know, right away you maybe feel a 50% reduction in pain or, you know, and then. But you need to use it over time to really mitigate whatever's happening? Is that correct? [00:38:18] Speaker B: So typically, the results that you're going to get are based off of how deficient you are. So if you're really severely magnesium deficient, your body's going to soak it all up really fast, and it's going to get to work really, really quickly. So we find that people who are dealing with the worst symptoms are the ones that get the fastest reaction from magnesium, surprisingly. [00:38:37] Speaker A: Wow. Wow. And how does stress play a role in all of this? You know, how does stress trigger, you know, is there any correlation between stress and magnesium deficiency? [00:38:46] Speaker B: Yes. That is a fabulous question that many people don't realize. There is a cycle when it comes to magnesium and stress. So the more stressed out you are, the more you're going to burn through your magnesium stores, and the more. The lower your magnesium levels are, the more stressed you're going to feel. So we've got this, like, super vicious cycle between magnesium and stress. And we find that when you start supplementing and getting adequate magnesium, you feel a lot calmer. And when you feel a lot calmer, you're less stressed, and everything tends to work a lot, lot better. [00:39:18] Speaker A: Wow. Wow. And we talked about hormonal imbalance. I think it's something that, unfortunately, so many women in the US Deal with. What really is that role of supplementing with magnesium and helping to mitigate some of the effect of hormonal imbalance, maybe. What are some of the results that you've seen in your customers as well, who are dealing with hormonal balance? Walk us through that. [00:39:43] Speaker B: So when it comes to hormones, one of the things that we see the most is estrogen dominance. That is something that we really struggle with here in the United States. [00:39:52] Speaker A: This girl. I've got that. Yes. [00:39:55] Speaker B: And you're not alone. It's so, so common, and it's very overlooked as well. So when it comes to estrogen dominance, magnesium helps with estrogen clearance in the liver, so it helps support the liver, helps get rid of that extra excess estrogen, and really helps keep that balance. So it's beautiful thing when it comes to estrogen dominance, it also works to help regulate your blood sugar, which we see people with pcos typically are dealing with insulin resistance oftentimes. And so it really helps regulate that blood sugar. And then on just a broader level, when we look at magnesium, it helps with sleep. And we know that our hormones go completely out of whack when we don't get enough sleep. Right. It helps with stress, and we know that our cortisol levels go up and that throws all the rest of our hormones off as well. So when we're able to keep everything on a broader level under control, our hormones start to do what they're supposed to do anyways. And then another really interesting thing that I just. I find so fascinating is that there are 34 symptoms that are associated with menopause, and those are the same exact symptoms that are associated with magnesium deficiency. Deficiency. We find that people who have adequate magnesium, they don't get the hot flashes, they don't get the bone loss, they sleep a lot better, they feel less anxious. It's absolutely phenomenal to me. [00:41:14] Speaker A: Wow, I have never heard that. That's incredible. It's something that so many. Actually, we have an episode coming up that is all about hormone health and never knew, never thought that magnesium could be such a potential role in menopause. And, you know, just so many things. So incredible, incredible, incredible. Is there a time of day that you should be taking your magnesium or rubbing it on your body? I know you talked about doing in the morning, but is there an optimal time to do this all day long? [00:41:48] Speaker B: There's no bad time to take magnesium. We see a lot of people will take it at nighttime to help them sleep. We have a lot of people take it during the day to help them with stress. Some people will take it in the afternoon to give them an energy burst throughout the day. So there Is no bad time to take magnesium. If you are going to take a pill or a powder, I actually recommend splitting up your dosage throughout the day. So let's say if your pills are two pills, take one in the morning, take one at night. What that's going to do is it's going to allow your body adequate time to absorb that magnesium. Because like I said earlier, if you take too much at once, your body's gonna get rid of the excess pretty quickly. So if we do a little bit throughout the day, it allows our body to absorb more of it throughout that day. [00:42:29] Speaker A: Wow. Amazing. Amazing. And another totally selfish question I'm asking for myself. I play beach volleyball. My knees are all messed up all the time. And I've tried using turmeric. I've tried other things, you know, tried like hacking my collagen, but actually not tried magnesium. Would you recommend rubbing magnesium on my knees as a way to maybe help with muscle recovery, you know, and knee pain as well? [00:42:56] Speaker B: Absolutely. So magnesium is naturally anti inflammatory. It helps bring down inflammation levels. I think it was a 2010 study that they did that they tested CRP levels in their patients and that's our markers for inflammation. They gave them magnesium, and all of those markers went down absolutely phenomenal. Huge, huge difference in inflammation. So when you use magnesium on your joints, it helps bring down that inflammation, and then on top of that, it helps pull lactic acid out of your muscles. So, you know, when we're working out hard, we get really sore. It's that lactic acid buildup. That magnesium is going to help flush that out so you feel a lot less sore and you recover so much faster. [00:43:35] Speaker A: Wow, wow, wow, wow. You know, I want to drill more into the habits because we've talked about stress, we've talked about alcohol and, you know, drinking coffee and poor diet, you know, as being things that really can cannibalize or destroy our magnesium levels. Are there any other behaviors? Because I think it's really important for people to be cognizant of the behaviors that could be sabotaging their success. Is there anything that we haven't covered that are behaviors that people should be aware of that can really reduce their magnesium levels? [00:44:06] Speaker B: And this is going to sound counterintuitive, but exercise. So when it comes to exercise, the more we sweat, the more we lose magnesium. Now, by no means am I saying don't exercise, but be aware that if you are an endurance athlete, like I talk to triathletes all the time, if you're running, if you're outside Sweating. If you spend a lot of time in the sauna and you're sweating, that magnesium be replaced. And unfortunately, when we look at all of those electrolyte packets and those electrolyte drinks, they have potassium and sodium, but many of them do not have magnesium. So you think you're getting enough. When you're chugging that Gatorade or that liquid IV and you're not, you need to make sure to focus on that magnesium as well. [00:44:52] Speaker A: Wow. Wow. What is the weirdest question that someone has asked you about magnesium? Kind of going on the, you know, like one thing you didn't know. Like, what are just weird things that people ask you about magnesium? [00:45:03] Speaker B: Oh, wow. I get so many strange questions. I bet on social media, I get some interesting ones. I've had women say, well, if I use this on my husband in the evening, will he just go to sleep and leave me alone? And I'm like, no, that's not how you use magnesium. [00:45:21] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh. [00:45:23] Speaker B: So I've had that. That one's an interesting one. And I've had. [00:45:27] Speaker A: That's hilarious. That's. Yeah. Please don't just feed your husband magnesium. [00:45:34] Speaker B: Yeah, I had a woman reach out to me and she said, oh, you know, I used magnesium on my husband as a massage at nighttime and he passed out. And the next morning he was like, did you drug me? What did you do to me? It's too, too funny. Although magnesium is very good on children, if you do have. If you do have kids that struggle to fall asleep at night or stay asleep, especially when they're little, magnesium can be very, very helpful to help help your kids stay asleep through the night. [00:46:00] Speaker A: Would it be the same dose, like the 500 milligrams for a child, or would you reduce that just based on, like, body weight and age? [00:46:06] Speaker B: Yeah, I always recommend, especially if they're tiny, start with a pea size amount and then work your way up until they start to respond to it. Alternatively, you could also give them put some Epsom salt in their bath water while they're feeding them at nighttime. And that's a great way to get magnesium into them as well. [00:46:20] Speaker A: True, true, true. I want to drill in to the anxiety part because it's something that we hear a ton about. People struggling with anxiety, panic attacks, you know, so on and so forth. So you talked about magnesium, you know, really helping you. What would you say to someone that's so deep in it that they're skeptical about whether or not this is actually going to help help them? [00:46:46] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, I think A lot of times when you have anxiety, it's very hard to see past yourself. You know, oftentimes you're told. You're told, oh, you just need to calm down. Never in the history of calming down has anybody calmed down because you told them to calm down. [00:47:02] Speaker A: Not once. [00:47:04] Speaker B: Not once. So it can be hard to reach people who are in. In the thick of it. Right, right. So just presenting magnesium as an option. Starting slow, starting with just a bath, do the Epsom salt bath, do the foot soak, see how you feel, check in with yourself, and then go from there. I know a lot of people have medical anxiety, so they're very scared to try different supplements and that type of thing. So simply starting with Epsom salt, starting with a quick, relaxing bath. That's a great way to start when, you know somebody has anxiety. You know, I want to go a. [00:47:37] Speaker A: Little bit broader just to you, you know, if you don't mind sharing, like, what are some other things, things as you were going through this journey, discovering about magnesium that were helpful for you on your wellness journey? What are some. Maybe even daily practices that you have? [00:47:49] Speaker B: Yeah, so daily practices. One of the things that I am trying to be more cognizant of and trying to be very, very firm about is protecting my time. So, yeah, like, we women do not. [00:48:03] Speaker A: We do not. I'm clapping on that. [00:48:08] Speaker B: We don't do enough of that. I think as women, we wear many, many hats. We hold a lot of the mental load in our society, and so we need to protect our time. And what that means for me at least, is saying no. I have to say no to people because I'm a helper. I don't know about you, but I want to help. And so saying no has been a struggle for me, but it's something that I've gotten a lot better at as I've gotten older. And just really, I heard somebody say this. She said, you know, everybody has the same 24 hours, and yet we see some women accomplishing amazing things, and then some don't. We have lots of us. And I'm guilty of it, where I say, hey, I'm too busy for this, or I'm too busy for that. I don't have time. And what she said is, well, the people who are accomplishing, they have the same amount of time. They just say no a lot more often than you do. So hard. So that is, you know, protecting that time, and then with that free time, doing the healthy stuff, you know, making sure you are giving. Giving yourself time for those baths. Those relaxation time or those foot soaks, giving yourself time to just be in the moment throughout the day can really, really help with that. [00:49:16] Speaker A: I love that. I love, I love what you said about the. No, that's actually been my biggest like self work over the, especially over the last year. You know, it's like making sure my no game is strong and not in a negative way, but in a way to protect my personal boundaries because I didn't realize how much 15 minute ask from this person, a 15 minute thing here that was actually stealing from my day and things weren't getting done. And then you just feel depleted and it adds to that stress, the burnout, the anxiety, you know, everything, you know, and it just compounds and I feel like there's no way to out supplement that. You know, if you're, if like there's no way to out supplement a lifestyle that doesn't feed your soul and feed you and give you space to actually recover. I love that you said that. No is a full sentence. I say that all the time. That's it. No, done. You know, totally curious too. Just, you know, thinking a little bit about the medical system and you know, kind of going back to like what you, you went through through. If you were to change one thing in the medical system as to the conversation about around magnesium, how doctors even think about magnesium deficiency, what is that one thing that you would absolutely change? [00:50:31] Speaker B: Just one thing. [00:50:32] Speaker A: Oh yeah, I know. Or if you have more, feel free to go. [00:50:38] Speaker B: There's so much I, and I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't ever want to speak ill of doctors because you know, if I'm in a car accident, I want a doctor to help me. Right. You know, like I, they serve a fabulous role. I think our biggest issue in our society is that nutrition is not taught in medical school. Like that blows my mind. [00:51:00] Speaker A: I'm clapping, I'm doing like a roundabout clap. So true. [00:51:04] Speaker B: It is, it is. I've read statistics that like doctors get less than 20 hours of nutritional training in medical school. School, you're there for four years, you get 20 hours. It's five hours a year. When we look at the amount of diseases that are linked to poor nutrition, I've heard as much as 65% of chronic diseases are due to poor nutrition. Why are we not addressing this? If you look at all of the diseases that can be linked to low magnesium. Heart disease. Heart disease. When you have a heart attack and you go into the hospital, the first line of defense is to give you Magnesium, like that. It obviously plays a role in heart health. And yet we're not teaching the preventative medicine to prevent the heart disease, the heart attacks, and the heart issues. So that needs to be part of medical school training. We need nutrition. It's something that is a huge, huge issue in our society. So that would be my number one thing, is that nutrition in all facets, all facets of nutrition needs to be taught. [00:52:08] Speaker A: I couldn't agree more. It's crazy. Our food is so powerful and, you know, using it as a tool for healing. It's crazy that that's not a part of the conversation. And I've actually been into doctors offices before where I'm like, you know, should I be eating something? And literally the blank stare, you know, no disrespect to doctors. I agree with you. I absolutely respect the profession and what they do, you know, but, you know, hey, I'll ask about, you know, curcumin or, you know, vitamin D or whatever it may be. And sometimes the look is like, you know, and that's, it's, it's, it's unfortunate. It's a huge miss. And it creates this disconnect where you almost feel like you need your traditional doctor to go to, but then you have to go to maybe holistic doctors. You have to go to, you know, you know, nutritionists as well. And, you know, I, I've found people, even myself, where you end up going to like three, three or four different providers for different things. And it'd be great if there was just a more integrated approach to be honest, to really help people. [00:53:07] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. I mean, not only is that a huge spend of your time to have to go to four different places, but also your money. And then many times you're getting different answers from everybody and you don't know which person is telling you the truth. It's hard because, you know, the doctors, traditional doctors, because they don't have that training when we bring up food, they either brush you off or they give you that deer in the head, like something look that you were talking about as well. So it really, it's, it's, it's disheartening sometimes, but it also, you know, hopefully encourages people to do their own research to learn more about food and just be more empowered when it comes to your health. [00:53:46] Speaker A: Agree. Absolutely. Being empowered, being an informed, you know, informed consumer of health information, wellness information, and, and owning agency, having agency over your body is just incredibly, incredibly key. [00:54:01] Speaker B: I want to try this. [00:54:01] Speaker A: Oh, sorry, go ahead. [00:54:03] Speaker B: It amazes me that you Know when you talk to certain people, you can talk to a mechanic and they can tell you everything about the inside of a car. You can talk to a computer, you know, a technical person and they can tell you everything about a computer. But we all have bodies and yet many people can't tell you what's happening inside their own body. That's with them all the time, right? [00:54:23] Speaker A: These are facts. These are facts. It's so funny. I was actually just having this conversation with someone the other day and I was like, you know, I think about how much extraneous information, like, you know, like, guilty as charged. I know random stuff about, I don't know, the Kardashians or like the lake, what the Lakers were doing or whatever it may be, you know, and I'm like, I just think about how much random inputs I have and you know, shame I'm calling myself out too, that I'm not spending more time making sure those inputs and the information that I'm consuming and focusing on is about my body. You know, everything from health, you know, figuring out like what nutrients you need to even knowing who you are as a person, like your wiring and you know, really how you show up in the world and understanding, you know, the mechanics of who you are as a human being. I was never taught that in school. Like, you know, and we're not really programmed to spend any time on that. People are like, oh, that's woo, woo, weird stuff, you know, but it's important to understand yourself and to know who you are. I think it's one of the most important things. [00:55:26] Speaker B: Absolutely. And I feel like we're so often distracted in our society. It's always like our attention is being pulled in so many different ways. I know I'm dating myself but you know, back in my day we didn't have the. I was born before the Internet. So, you know, me too, me too. [00:55:42] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm with you. [00:55:43] Speaker B: Yeah, quite as much distraction. So I felt like we were more self aware not only just with our bodies, but with our mental health, with our emotional health. And so nowadays with all the distractions, we have to be intentional about setting that time aside that we can, you know, not have the Internet going, not have our email, not have the TV and just having that quiet time with ourselves. [00:56:06] Speaker A: Absolutely. It's so, so key, so important now more than ever I feel like, you know, like we were just so disconnected. There's so much with 10 million social media platforms. I was just the other day, I don't know if you feel this way, you Know, I was just thinking about how many communication systems you have to manage between Instagram messenger, the Facebook messenger, WhatsApp. And I know I'm dating myself, so I sound like that, like, you know, like old fangled, like all these new messengers that these kids have you on. I mean, but, you know, I was like, literally within a series of 20 minutes, I was in WhatsApp, responding, in Instagram, responding. Then someone sent me a Facebook thing. Then someone was in Slack, you know, and there's just so much, so much input where you don't get the time. And we've gotta. We've gotta set boundaries around that and focus on ourselves, who we are, what we need in order to feel healthy in this body. [00:57:00] Speaker B: I agree completely. [00:57:02] Speaker A: So important, you know, I want to transition a little bit. There was a term that's like rattling at the back of my head, before I forget. Magnesium burn. I saw that somewhere online. What actually, what is that? [00:57:14] Speaker B: Even so magnesium burn, or sometimes it'll be referred to as magnesium burn rate. It's how much magnesium. Because, well, we focus so much on how much magnesium we take in. We have to be aware of how much we're burning through as well, because magnesium deficiency can happen if you're not getting enough magnesium, or it can also happen if we're burning through what we already have. So we need to keep a good balance. And when it comes to magnesium burn, it's all the sweating, making sure that you're replenishing, but also the sugar, the stress, the alcohol, the caffeine, certain medications. There are a lot of prescription medications that will also deplete your magnesium levels as well. So we need to be aware of that and then supplement accordingly. [00:57:56] Speaker A: Absolutely. [00:57:58] Speaker B: Well, I want to ask you one. [00:57:59] Speaker A: More question before we move on to our next section. You know, what is one or maybe two questions that you wish people were actually asking you about magnesium? [00:58:10] Speaker B: Yeah. So one of the questions I wish they would ask is, how much should you be taking? Because people just. They just grab a bottle, they take whatever the serving size is, and then they feel like, oh, why didn't it work? So there's. There's two reasons why. One is because there are a lot of deceptive marketing practices that are happening in the supplement industry. [00:58:30] Speaker A: Oh, true. [00:58:31] Speaker B: Yes. It's not regulated. It is a fully unregulated industry. So we have to be aware when we are purchasing supplements. One of the biggest tricks that I see these brands doing is on the front of the bottle, it'll say, you know, it'll say 500 milligrams of magnesium. And then on the back of the bottle where the label, the nutrition label is where it says supplement facts, It'll show only 70 milligrams of magnesium. And the reason why is like what I said earlier, magnesium, for instance, magnesium glycine. It's magnesium that's bound to the amino acid glycine. So there's 500 is showing you the complete amount. What we want to know is how much actual magnesium is in the product. And so they can charge you a lot more when they say 500 milligrams in the front and you think you're getting that much, but you're really only getting 70 milligrams, which is not nearly enough to make a difference at all. So that's a big issue. [00:59:21] Speaker A: I can't even. So these companies, and I'm a marketer, that's my, you know, my first business. I do run a marketing agency. I've always said I was like, I want to teach a class on ethical marketing. Because starting a beauty brand was the most eye opening thing. I don't know how many times actually heard from manufacturers, oh, you can just dust your product with this and say that it has that. Like, like, I don't want to do that. Like, I don't want to, you know, to me, I want to create a product where I can rest my head on my pillow at night and like know that I've created something that's good in the world. Not just pulling like, you know, smoke and mirrors on people. Like that's just. But so many companies do. It's ridiculous. [00:59:58] Speaker B: Oh yeah. The dusting is very, very, very common in the magnesium market because basically because magnesium is trending so hard on social media. Actually read a stat yesterday that There is an 85% uptick on the search term magnesium across all social media channels. So it's so trendy. But these giant beauty brands are coming out with like, they'll take their regular lotion, dust it with a little magnesium and now they're like, oh, it's a magnesium cream. It's so frustrating. [01:00:25] Speaker A: So, so annoying. How can a consumer not be. I just want to. How can you not get tricked? Because I just feel like, like we both know the insider secrets, like how do you not end up being bamboozled if you're an out, you know, a consumer buying these products that are just no good. [01:00:41] Speaker B: So one of the things when it comes to magnesium, if you want a high, a high concentration magnesium product, magnesium needs to be within those first three ingredients. Yeah, we hope at least that, that the manufacturers are doing the right thing and putting their ingredients in order of concentration. We hope they are. That's all I can say about that. You know, if you, if you're manufactured in a GMP facility, then you know that's being covered. But there are a lot of people that are making magnesium in their kitchens that are selling it, you know, on, on TikTok Shop and on Etsy and that kind of thing. And there's no guarantee that what they say is on the label is actually in the product. So you want to make sure you're using a legitimate brand. [01:01:20] Speaker A: Absolutely. Anything else you wish people would ask you about magnesium? [01:01:25] Speaker B: Another thing is making sure that you're taking the right amount. So the rda, which is like the recommended amount that we're supposed to get is 350 to 400 milligrams a day. But that is, the RDA was created to help healthy people stay healthy. So if you're deficient in magnesium, then that might not be enough to meet your needs. You might need more. So for instance, I typically will take about 600 to 700 milligrams a day because that's how much my skin sweet spot is. Now I'm not. This is not a substitute for medical advice. This is, you know, so that you can take this information to your healthcare practitioner, your functional medicine doctor, your nutritionist, and start that conversation as to whether it's appropriate for you to take more than what the RDA is. [01:02:10] Speaker A: Got it, Got it. Super, super interesting. This is just, wow, what a wealth of information. We're gonna move on to a section I love called True or False. And what we've done is we prepared a bunch of questions for Natalie to answer a rapid fire true or false. If things need some explanation or context, feel free to provide that. I'm going to go through and start reading and firing you with some of these questions. So here they come. The first one is magnesium can be absorbed effectively through the skin. [01:02:42] Speaker B: True, true. [01:02:43] Speaker A: Yes, yes, yes, yes. Which we just learned. Amazing, amazing, amazing. Your product is pretty perfect for that. The second is you can't overdose on magnesium. [01:02:53] Speaker B: False. [01:02:53] Speaker A: Technically, yeah, absolutely. Three magnesium supplements work best on an empty stomach. [01:03:00] Speaker B: False. [01:03:03] Speaker A: Clarification on that. I'm curious. [01:03:05] Speaker B: So if you're, if you're getting magnesium, if you're not getting the cofactors, that B6 and those boron and taurine, then it can, it can cause, you know, it can cause you not to absorb quite as much. So if you're taking magnesium, it's often good to take it with your meal. So you're getting those co factors with those calciums. [01:03:22] Speaker A: Got it, got it. This one. All forms of magnesium are the same. [01:03:26] Speaker B: No. [01:03:27] Speaker A: Very false. Magnesium is only important for muscle cramps and sleep. [01:03:32] Speaker B: False. [01:03:35] Speaker A: Drinking coffee can lower your magnesium levels. [01:03:38] Speaker B: True. [01:03:40] Speaker A: Magnesium can help with PMS symptoms. [01:03:42] Speaker B: True. [01:03:44] Speaker A: Ah, yes. Unpack that a little bit. [01:03:46] Speaker B: Actually. [01:03:47] Speaker A: That's what I would love to hear your take on that. [01:03:49] Speaker B: Yeah. I always thought it was funny that for years I would crave chocolate right before my cycle. I do. Many, many women do. And then I started taking magnesium and those cravings went away. It turns out that chocolate is naturally high in magnesium. And the reason that we crave it is because our body needs that magnesium during our cycle. We lose a lot of magnesium during our cycle. And isn't that amazing? Yeah. When we, and when we, when we're going through that PMS time, we're getting really irritable. We're having a hard time sleeping. So magnesium can really help with those symptoms. And like I said earlier, it really is effective at balancing our hormones. You know, it's effective at clearing that excess estrogen. So it works just in so many levels for pms. [01:04:31] Speaker A: Good to know. Wow. A few chocolate companies just lost my business because I'm going to get my, I'm going to go out and get myself some magnesium so I could stop going to Whole Foods. Whole Foods and buying like the whole chocolate aisle the week before. Good to know. Good to know. This next one, if you're constipated, you probably need more magnesium. [01:04:49] Speaker B: Yes. So typically people will take magnesium citrate for this because it helps draw water into the bowels and it keeps everything a little more regular. [01:04:58] Speaker A: Interesting. Magnesium levels are easily checked with a standard blood test. [01:05:02] Speaker B: No. False. [01:05:05] Speaker A: Most people get enough magnesium from their diet alone. [01:05:08] Speaker B: False. [01:05:09] Speaker A: Taking calcium without magnesium can cause imbalances. [01:05:13] Speaker B: Oh, calcium, magnesium. So, yes, you want to make sure that magnesium and calcium, you have adequate of both, but you don't want to take them at the same time. You want to give it a two hour difference between taking them. [01:05:25] Speaker A: Good to know. Did not know that magnesium helps with both anxiety and energy levels. [01:05:31] Speaker B: Yes. [01:05:33] Speaker A: Magnesium deficiency can mimic symptoms of depression. [01:05:37] Speaker B: True. [01:05:38] Speaker A: Interesting. The type of magnesium you choose doesn't matter much. [01:05:42] Speaker B: False. [01:05:43] Speaker A: Yes. Magnesium helps regulate blood sugar levels. [01:05:47] Speaker B: True. [01:05:49] Speaker A: And this one's really interesting. People with migraines are often deficient in magnesium. [01:05:54] Speaker B: True. [01:05:55] Speaker A: Unpack that one. Actually, I didn't know that. [01:05:58] Speaker B: Yeah. So headaches and migraines are very, very often related. To low magnesium. Magnesium helps block certain pain receptors that cause migraines. So people who are typically, and this isn't just like a one off headache that you have, but people who are dealing with chronic migraines, they see really great relief from increasing their magnesium levels. [01:06:21] Speaker A: Amazing. Good to know. Thank you for playing True or False. We're gonna move on to our next section, which is called Rapid Fire. And this is where we've taken questions that we've received from all over and we're just going to feed Natalie a few questions to answer on a rapid fire basis. So you've provided so much information. I'm gonna actually scroll through these and think of ones that see ones that we haven't actually already talked about. Let's see. So. Oh, I love this one. What is one wellness trend you roll your eyes at? [01:06:55] Speaker B: Okay. It would be both the carnivore diet and the vegan diet. [01:07:01] Speaker A: Unpack. [01:07:02] Speaker B: This is. [01:07:03] Speaker A: I, you know, I've always said, like, I wanted to start like a side podcast called Unpopular Opinions because sometimes I feel like, you know, we get, especially in the wellness space, like people get into these. How do I, what do I want to call it? Like this kind of bandwagon effect. I would love for you to unpack that, actually. [01:07:20] Speaker B: So the Carnivore diet is like all over TikTok right now. It's such a. And there isn't very much magnesium in meat. Like it's like 25 milligrams for an entire serving. So it's very difficult to get enough magnesium and other nutrients on a carnivore diet. The other side is true as well. Being a vegan, you're missing out on a lot, a lot of what animal proteins can bring to you. And I say this as a vegetarian. I have been a vegetarian since I was 12 years old. So I, I'm seeking from experience, but I've also struggled with anemia for, on and off throughout my entire life because I don't get enough of that iron that is typically found in meat diets. So I think anytime we do something extreme and take out an entire food group, we are doing ourselves a disservice. [01:08:07] Speaker A: Thank you for saying that. Thank you for speaking truth to that. Because I think that a lot of times people are afraid to say, like, hey, you know, a lot of these trend diets, they may not be like the, you know, if you're doing something you feel great, it works for your body. Hey, more power to you. What can I say? But I think sometimes people feel compelled. Like, you need to do this. And I've actually heard like a, no offense to my carnivore people out there, but some of y' all are like super forceful on pushing carnivore and you know, they like almost don't understand, like why you wouldn't want to do it. And, you know, I always feel like you need to do what feels best for your body and not take everything at face value. [01:08:47] Speaker B: I agree, I agree. I feel like the only trend in diets, it should be just get nutrition. [01:08:52] Speaker A: Like, just get nutrition. Yeah, exactly. Yes, yes. Are you getting the nutrition check, yes or no? Like, you know, like all the other stuff is just. It's just stuff sometimes. Anyway, I digress. What's the most surprising place magnesium shows up in the body? Was a question that came through. [01:09:13] Speaker B: Well, I mean, it shows up all throughout your body, but most of it is going to be in your bones. And this is what always makes me like, laugh because people will go to the doctor and the doctor is like, oh, you're dealing with bone loss or osteoporosis and they immediately give you calcium. Right, Right. But calcium is not going to work in your body without the magnesium it needs. So getting a high dose of calcium, the way I like to compare it, is magnesium is the bus. Right. And calcium gets on the bus and magnesium drives that calcium into the bones and into our teeth and everywhere it's supposed to go. Well, if you just have the calcium without the bus, that calcium is going to wind up in your arteries, it's going to wind up in your kidneys and cause kidney stones. It's going to wind up in your gallbladder and cause gallstones. It's going to wind up all the places where it does not belong. So we've got to make sure that if you're taking calcium for bone health, you are also taking magnesium, vitamin D and K2. [01:10:06] Speaker A: I don't know, I just had this image of like calcium and like a souped up Range Rover, like white Ra, like driving around, driving the minerals around. I don't know why. My brain just went there. Anyway, I digress. You know, this is another one. What's the wellness advice you give but you still struggle with yourself. [01:10:27] Speaker B: Oh, oh, that's a good one. I would say making, making time for myself. Like I said earlier, like it's, it's still hard. I still find myself working at, you know, 10, 11 o' clock at night when I know I should be resting and relaxing. But I'm trying, I'm trying. That's all I Can say I'm continuing. [01:10:46] Speaker A: Progress, not perfection, you know? [01:10:48] Speaker B: Right. [01:10:50] Speaker A: Progress, not perfection. And then another follow up to that. That's kind of a similar vein. Your favorite guilty pleasure. [01:10:59] Speaker B: Oh, my favorite guilty pleasure is ice cream. But I've got a Ninja Creamy. I don't know if you've seen those before where you can make ice cream at home. And it is the best thing if you have a sweet tooth because you can. You can use cottage cheese as the base, you can use protein shakes as the base, and it makes it taste like ice cream. It is the best invention ever. [01:11:23] Speaker A: What? Ninja Creamy. [01:11:25] Speaker B: Yes. It's amazing. [01:11:26] Speaker A: Oh. Amazon.com Here I come to find that because I love ice cream. And during COVID I actually bought like this old kind of like old school ice cream maker kind of thing. And I was trying to like be that. That chick that was making ice cream, you know, but it was so it's kind of a lot like, it was a huge process. It needs like a lot of ice. It's a whole thing. So it's kind of like collecting dust. So if the Ninja cream is a little bit easier, I'm sold. I love it. I love it. I love it. [01:11:56] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, I love that. You said during COVID we all picked up the COVID like hobbies. For me, it was making kombucha and I wound up with kombucha. I did that too. [01:12:04] Speaker A: I did that too. I kombucha. I was into making bread. I tried to make yogurt doing. I was like just turning out and like putting all these things together. My boyfriend would be like, what is happening? Actually, that's how I started clean rebellion. I started making soap too. During COVID He's like, what is happening with you? Like, what is going on? You know, I love that. Outside of magnesium, what is the most underrated mineral supplement that you can think of? [01:12:38] Speaker B: I would say potassium. Potassium is another one of those things that it's hard to get enough of. I don't recommend supplementing with potassium because in supplement form, taking a bunch all at once is not very good for you. It needs to come from food. But we don't tend to eat those potassium rich foods that we're supposed to. And so we see that our potassium levels go down. And magnesium and potassium, they need each other. So magnesium uses up potassium in your body in order to work. So if your potassium levels are low and then you supplement magnesium, your potassium levels are going to crash. So we need to make sure that we're getting those beans and those potatoes that Coconut water, all that good stuff that has potassium in it. [01:13:19] Speaker A: Good to know. Good to know. And then the opposite of that. What would you say is the most overhyped supplement mineral that you continue to hear about? Right now? [01:13:29] Speaker B: For me, it's biotin. I see a lot of people, like, women especially, they take biotin, and I'm like, you know, it's just a B vitamin, right? Like, it's just, like, people spend, like, money on it. And I'm like, you could just take a B complex and get all of your B vitamins and not spend quite so much money. [01:13:45] Speaker A: Oh, good. What? You know, and it's so funny. I feel like biotin is another one that's, you know, guilty of the, like, dusting situation where people are like, oh, this shampoo has biotin, or this has, you know, and then people charge a premium for it when, like, the amount of biotin in it is negligible. [01:14:03] Speaker B: Exactly, exactly. Yeah. People, they go crazy taking, like, the biotin, gummies and that kind of stuff. I'm like, just take some B vitamins, you know? [01:14:11] Speaker A: Good to know. Good to know. I want to do two more of these. I'm trying to pick the juiciest, juiciest ones. Let me ask you this one. What's the strangest health hack that you've tried? [01:14:26] Speaker B: Cat fermented cabbage drink. Oh, it was. [01:14:30] Speaker A: What? Yuck. That sounds. I could, like, smell it. Like, like it sounds. [01:14:37] Speaker B: It is so much worse than you think, I promise. [01:14:39] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh. [01:14:41] Speaker B: There was, like, cabbage juice trend, and it was right before the. Right before 2020. And it was supposed to clean you out and get rid of parasites and anything yucky. Your digestive tract. So you have to take cabbage, put it with water and salt, ferment it on your counter until it smelled awful, and then you're supposed to drink the whole thing. It was just. I felt horrible for days. It was not a good idea. It threw off my electrolytes. I had cramping. It was awful. Do not recommend. [01:15:10] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh. I. I just think about the, like, putrid smell sometimes of cooked cabbage and it fermenting. Oi, yoi, yoi. Yuck, yuck, yuck, yuck. [01:15:21] Speaker B: Awful, awful, awful. [01:15:24] Speaker A: Well, you are brave for trying that. Hey, the things we do in the name of wellness. I've tried some, like, esoteric, weird things too, you know? So that's a good. That's a really good one. I'm gonna ask you one last one. If you weren't doing this, what would you. What would you be doing? [01:15:42] Speaker B: I would if I wasn't doing this. Before I did this, I was a non profit, so. And I love, yeah, I love, love, love working in nonprofits. I worked with teenagers particularly, that were at risk, at risk youth. And it was definitely one of the most rewarding things ever. So I think that, you know, if I wasn't doing this, I probably would have stayed in non profits and continued it. The problem though, with non profits is that you burn out pretty quickly. It's low pay and long hours. So it is not quite sustainable for a lifestyle. [01:16:13] Speaker A: Very cool. Very, very cool. Didn't know that. That's interesting. Now we're gonna move on to our next section, which is called Breaking down Wild Trends. So there's so many. We've already talked about a few of them, man. Social medias, the social media platforms have some crazy trends. I feel like TikTok, I'm always opening up TikTok and I see people doing just like you're, like, what is actually happening? We've pulled a few of them from social media and we'd love for you to call, comment on them. So here's one that I just continue to see. Magnesium oil facials are trending for skin gl. Everyone's talking about them, everyone's trying them. Do you think that this is safe or is it a really bad idea? [01:16:56] Speaker B: I think that using magnesium chloride in your skin care can be very effective. But using pure magnesium oil, like the kind you see in sprays, is entirely too strong for our skin and can do some damage. Magnesium chloride in lower doses is really effective for cellular turnover. So it's going to get rid of those older skin cells and help those fresher ones come to the surface. So in that aspect, it's very helpful. It just needs to be done properly. [01:17:23] Speaker A: Another one, I see people doing topical magnesium belly wraps for hormonal balance. Does this actually work? [01:17:31] Speaker B: Yes. I love belly wraps. If you're doing castor oil in particular, if you've ever seen people use castor packs. I love, love castor packs. They are so underrated. And then if you were to. Also, one of the hacks that I do with castor packs is I spray that magnesium chloride oil on before applying the castor pack. The castor oil is going to keep it from irritating your skin and you're going to get the benefits of the magnesium plus the cast. [01:17:55] Speaker A: Good to know. I'm gonna start adding Maggie because I do the castor oil packs. I'm curious, do you do yours at night? Do you do it during the day? Like, how do you typically or when do you do them? [01:18:03] Speaker B: I typically will do it overnight and just sleep with it. But during the day, if I eat something that doesn't agree with me or if I'm feeling bloated, I'll just put a castor pack on during the day as well. [01:18:13] Speaker A: Yeah, I agree. They're so underrated. It's amazing. It's really, really amazing. Another one. Some people claim on the social medias that magnesium can cure health hangovers. Is there any truth to that? [01:18:28] Speaker B: Yes and no. So one of the reasons that we get hangovers is because we are severely dehydrated and we've lost a ton of electrolytes. One of those electrolytes is magnesium. So we get those headaches, we feel that dizziness, that tiredness, that kind of thing. And replacing your magnesium can really help. But the other side of that is you're also really dehydrated. You gotta get that water back in your system. And then, of course, not drinking at all will Prevent the hangover 100% of the time. [01:18:54] Speaker A: These are facts. These are facts. Absolutely. Absolutely. Another thing that we always see is magnesium powder mixing for coffee for stress relief. Is this a genius hack or a weird combo? [01:19:08] Speaker B: I think it's a weird combo because coffee is going to deplete your magnesium. So it's lowering your magnesium. You can take. If you mix the magnesium in with your coffee, it's going to help replenish some of that magnesium. But you're still at a zero sum game, right? So I don't know how effective it is to boost your health. It can help you maintain, I suppose. [01:19:28] Speaker A: Okay. Interesting. Magnesium sprays for hair growth. I've seen these on TikTok. Is this total nonsense or is there some science behind this? [01:19:36] Speaker B: There's absolute science behind it. Yeah. Yeah. So magnesium chloride for your scalp. One of the things it does is it helps get rid of calcium buildup that happens on our scalp. And so some of that calcium buildup can stop our hair from growing. And so that really helps in that aspect. It also helps lower inflammation. So if you're dealing with scalp conditions that are, you know, inflammatory, that magnesium can help with that as well. And it also, you know, increases blood flow as well to the scalp. [01:20:03] Speaker A: Wow, wow, wow, wow. People are, are all about these magnesium gummies. I know we talked about about them. Are any of them good or really, are they just like all sugary? [01:20:15] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. I mean, most of the gummies, 99% of them, are going to be magnesium citrate and magnesium Magnesium citrate can give you a little bit of boost of magnesium, but if you take too much of it, you're going to be in the bathroom. It's not my favorite form of magnesium. So most of them are citrate. Most of them are just loaded with sugar. I haven't found a brand that is not, like, just filled with yucky stuff. [01:20:38] Speaker A: Oh, bummer. But good to know. And then I keep seeing people using topical magnesium for chronic jaw clenching and tmj. Is it plausible or is this just a placebo? [01:20:52] Speaker B: Yeah. So magnesium is responsible for relaxing our muscles in our body. So when we think of, like, our heart beating, it's the calcium that tightens our muscles, the magnesium that relaxes our muscles, so that the calcium and magnesium being in perfect balance is what makes your heart beat. Right. So if you're dealing with TMJ and you're dealing with all that tension, that tightness in your muscles, when you apply magnesium, it forces those muscles to relax. So it is a very, very helpful and supportive mineral to use if you have tmj. [01:21:20] Speaker A: Wow. So interesting. So, so interesting. Okay, now we're gonna move on to our next section, which is called the Reddit Rabbit hole. So what we like to do is just scan Reddit and grab some questions that people are asking about magnesium on Reddit. So we'll go through just a few of these. I'm gonna read the first one. So the person says, what formulations of magnesium are you using? So hope this doesn't violate Rule 1. They said, I'm asking because I'm confused, and I don't want to keep ordering supplements. I have oxide. And is it malate? Malate. I always want to say malate. Malate, or add some other stuff into it, but never mind. Malate. Thought malate was supposed to help for sleep at least, but now I'm seeing glycine and citrate. Which ones do you take? And he helped a lot. So, you know, and I. The reason why I want to read this one was because a person has an edit that I think is very important. They said Dr. In their edit, they said, Dr. Prescribed B2COQ10 and magnesium. No type specified. That's why I'm confused. And I feel like so many people end up in this situation where the doctor prescribes things, and then they're confused. So what would you say to this person? [01:22:33] Speaker B: So to this person, I totally get it. Doctors will either not tell you a type or they'll tell you magnesium oxide, which is just not very well absorbed. So we like to avoid that. Magnesium oxide and magnesium malate is a wonderful form of magnesium. Magnesium glycinate, also another form that works really, really well. Taurate is great. So all of those are going to be really, really great options for people. Alternatively, you could also take a magnesium complex. Magnesium complexes are one bottle of magnesium that has several different forms in it. So you could take a complex that has citrate, malate, and glycinate in it, and you're getting the benefits of all of them while simultaneously raising those magnesium levels. [01:23:16] Speaker A: Interesting, interesting, interesting. I want to. We kind of have talked about this one, but I do want to ask you this question from Reddit because I feel like this is another one that so many people end up in this situation. And it starts off by saying, why doesn't magnesium work for me? Which we kind of talked about before. But what I thought was interesting. They continue to say, on the contrary, it actually worsens my sleep significantly if I take it before bed. So I'm going to just paraphrase some of what they said. They say, I tried the Solar Ray magnesium glycinate and Seeking Health Optimal Magnesium. Neither of these products made a positive difference in. In fact, both worsen the quality of my sleep. When I took them, I regularly woke up during the night compared to sleeping quite well without them. The exact same thing happened to my wife. I'm starting to question whether most supplements might do more harm than good for regular folks who have no serious health conditions, eat a balanced diet, and exercise normally. Are we being played into thinking we need something we actually don't? You know, I have to say I love the skepticism in this question, which is why I wanted to read it out, because I feel like so many people feel, feel the same way. And these brands, Solaray especially, it's everywhere on Amazon. Like, I always see that when I, you know, search for supplements. It's like one of the first things that come up. [01:24:30] Speaker B: So there's two reasons why this could possibly happen. The first is, and it was the minute you said glycine, I'm like, that's why. The first is magnesium glycine. So magnesium glycine, it works fabulously for many, many people, but there is a subset of the population who do not process glycine well. So typically what glycine does is it binds to gaba. GABA is a neurotransmitter that really kind of calms down your brain activity. For some people, that glycine and gaba, they don't have a good relationship. And it turns into more of an excitatory process. Right. So instead of making you fall asleep, it's going to make you wired and irritable and that type of thing. So it could be it's just the glycinate. And for that person, I would recommend just trying a different form of magnesium. Try the malate, try torate, try, try, try many of the other forms of magnesium. So it could be that simple. There could be another issue at play here as well. So if you've taken magnesium and it gives you the opposite effect that you're expecting, it could be that you're low in potassium. So like I said earlier, when you take magnesium, it's going to lower your potassium. Symptoms of low potassium are you have a hard time sleeping, you get heart palpitations, you feel anxious and irritable. So the easy way to fix that is eat those beans, those potatoes, that coconut water, and see how you feel then. [01:25:46] Speaker A: Amazing. Interesting. So, so interesting. Okay, now we're gonna jump out of the Reddit rabbit hole and we're gonna do our last segment here, which is what's in your bag. So I want to turn it over to you, Natalie, to showcase what you've got in your bag. [01:26:01] Speaker B: Yes. So for me, I have our line of magnesium creams. I don't go anywhere without them. We just went on vacation, took my kids and my family on vacation, and, you know, I had our trusty magnesium creams with us, which worked so well for sunburn. So when you're out. [01:26:18] Speaker A: Sunburn. I didn't know. I didn't know that. [01:26:21] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. Magnesium is naturally anti inflammatory, so it's going to bring down that redness and inflammation in the skin. And then we use so many beautiful hydrating oils in our, in our creams that it helps moisturize the skin and help with the irritation as well. So my husband got. He turned into a human lobster on the first day of our vacation, and now it was so red by, by three days in, we were using the magnesium cream, sunburn was gone. No peeling, no irritation, nothing like that. So really is quite amazing. [01:26:50] Speaker A: Wow, wow, wow, wow. Wait, what? I didn't know. Sunburn. Are there any other uses of magnesium that we haven't talked about? I mean, it really seems like this. It's the all encompassing that it could be used in so many situations. Situations. [01:27:03] Speaker B: Deodorant. This is an interesting one. A lot of people use magnesium to help with deodorant, to help with body odor. I will tell you, I've tried it myself. We live in Florida. And nothing holds up to Florida in August, so it doesn't hold up for me. But I hear a lot of people will use magnesium chloride under their arms and it really helps them as a deodorizer. [01:27:25] Speaker A: Amazing. Amazing. Do you have samples of your product that you could show our viewers? [01:27:30] Speaker B: Absolutely. So we actually have three formulas. We have our relief cream, which was formulated to help with aches, pains, soreness and cramps. This not only is made with high concentration magnesium, we use twice the amount of magnesium as the leading brand. So ours are hyper concentrated, but it also has arnica and white willow bark, comfrey, ginger, wintergreen, peppermint, which are all oils that help support pain relief. So it works really, really well for, you know, those aching knees, the sore back, the headaches, the menstrual cramps. It really is a lifesaver. We also have our. My absolute favorite, which is our tranquility. And this was developed for stress and anxiety. This has ashwagandha and rhodiola tulsi, which are all herbs that really calm down the nervous system. This is my go to. I cannot live without this. And then our third formula is our sleep formula, and this is our rest cream. It's got passionflower, chamomile, lavender, clary, sage, ylang ylang, which all help support that sleepy, that sleep cycle and help you fall asleep faster and stay asleep longer. So those are our three formulas. They work beautifully. They all have the same amount of magnesium, but each one has different beautiful herbal concentrates. [01:28:39] Speaker A: Incredible. Incredible. Incredible. Curious. Is there anything that you're working on right now or you'd like to tell our audience a little bit more about? [01:28:49] Speaker B: We are we in terms of our business? We just launched on Amazon not too long ago, so that has been all consuming for me lately. So it is, it's. It's definitely harder than I expected, but it's been very, very rewarding. [01:29:04] Speaker A: Very, very amazing. Congratulations on that. I know it's. It's. I know it's a process. I went through that myself. It's a process. It is a process. Amazing. Natalie, thank you so much. It has been just such a pleasure and you are a wealth of information. I learned a ton about magnesium and I can't wait to actually implement some of the things that you've so generously shared, you know, with me in the audience. So thank you, thank you, thank you. [01:29:32] Speaker B: And thank you so much for bringing health and wellness to the world through your podcast. [01:29:36] Speaker A: Thank you. Thank you so much. Where can we find you online, by the way? [01:29:40] Speaker B: We can you can find me at Berooted In. That's our website. I'm also very active on TikTok and Instagram at Berooted in as well. [01:29:47] Speaker A: Amazing. Well, thank you so much, Natalie. Till next time.