FOOD IS NOT THE ENEMY | "THE WELLZEST PODCAST WITH KARIN ADONI, NUTRITIONIST & HEALTH COACH

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign. Welcome back to the Wells Nest Podcast. I'm Teju. I am so excited for today's episode because you're in for a treat. We have Corinne here who is an amazing, amazing powerhouse, nutritionist, wellness expert. I want to tell you a little bit about all of the amazingness that is Corinne. So I'm just going to read her bio really quickly. So Corinne Adani Ben David is a certified nutritionist, health health coach, expert, public speaker and macro influencer. The founder of Emmy Supplements book, author and creator of the Karin Adani weight loss method. With over 20 years of experience, she helps people take control of their health by simplifying clean eating, balancing hormones, healing the gut, and restoring focus and energy. She specializes in performance based nutrition, emotional eating and sugar detox Natural. When she's not doing this, she's also the mom of three and she understands how overwhelming wellness can be. That's why she takes a real life approach as practical and as effective as it can be. And she has personalized programs, recipe books, supplements, her social media community that's always growing. She's got over 700,000 followers and really she's here to really empower people with no BS guidance. We love the no bs. We're all about the. We were talking before. I feel like Corinne and I were already bonding and we were like, no BS lifestyle. We're not here for it now. Corinne, I would love to get into your backstory because we were chatting a little bit before we started the podcast and you have such an interesting backstory. So give me your. I'll call it like your superhero, because you are a superhero. Your superhero origin story. How did you become the person who's sitting in front of me here? What were some of your early experiences that shaped you to becoming a nutritionist? [00:01:53] Speaker B: Great question. First of all, thank you for having me. I'm super excited and I'm feeling this would be a great conversation. So for me, I want to say it started at an early age. When I was 11, I started developing severe aging disorders. Now, back in the days and we're talking about, you know, almost like 25, 30 years ago, there was no, like social media. The Internet was just developing. So it wasn't that I was influenced by like, you know, something external. It was something more internal within myself. And I want to say that like my entire teen years, I was starving myself. I tried every diet in the book. The apple diet, the cabbage diet, don't eat diet. I would go to the gym for hours. I would take food suppressor, I would take Foot burners. Whether legal or illegal or whatever you can think of, I would do. [00:02:44] Speaker A: Wow. [00:02:45] Speaker B: And it consumes you now, eating disorders. Everyone thinks it's like more of like, ah, she just wanted to be skinny or what's the problem? Just eat. [00:02:52] Speaker A: Right. [00:02:53] Speaker B: But it's never about the food. The food is always like the outcome. It's. It's the result. It's not the reason. It's usually something internal. Whether it can be an emotional struggle, whether it can be a trauma or something you went through. And of course the environment did pay attention. And my parents. But when a person doesn't want to help himself. [00:03:13] Speaker A: Mmm. That right there, no one can help. It's so true. It's so true. [00:03:18] Speaker B: And I feel like what kept me there, like, without going full on in like hospitalization and whatever it is, because a part of having that disorder, the type A personality, is also that sense of control. And I never wanted to let control complete. Like, I didn't want to let go of the control completely and the disease will take over me. I want to say. [00:03:39] Speaker A: Right. [00:03:41] Speaker B: So that was like a part of that. So every year it got worse and worse and worse and worse. And it like consumed me. I want to say you're like in a jail in your own head, right? Maybe people with like, they have like anxiety or depression or like this OCD thoughts can relate, but it's like basically that's the only thing you can think of throughout the day. There's always something in the back of your mind that is guiding you through. And you can think clearly. You can be present now where talking about 20 something years ago today. You can relate because you're on your phone and you're not present. Exactly. That's something else. There's nothing external. It's your head not not letting you be present. And you can really enjoy anything you're doing because it's all there. But you don't realize that because you don't know anything else. [00:04:23] Speaker A: Right. [00:04:23] Speaker B: And then when I was 20, I did like a. A trip to the Far East. I went to like Thailand and Vietnam, whatever. Yeah. I went to travel the world a little bit. [00:04:33] Speaker A: Was it just like on your own? Like? [00:04:34] Speaker B: It was with a friend. It was with a friend. And we did it for like a few months. And for the first time as adult, I want to say I had fun. You know, I was present. I didn't have my scale, I didn't have my foot, my like, you know, fat burners, the suppressors, all the things. Because I wouldn't travel with It. I didn't have the. My environment that I created that, like, really triggered all of those, you know, problems and things. And when I came back home, all the demons came back. And then I realized I need to make a decision whether I'm taking over the disease or the disease will take over my life. And I was like, 20. I didn't have a lot to lose because you don't have, like, kids and family. Like, you have your immediate family, but it's not like your responsibilities are different than what it is today. And I was like, it's time for me to make a decision. And I made that decision. So I went back into my therapist, but without lying. And I went back. [00:05:26] Speaker A: So before, were you. Were you making up stories, kind of sugarcoating the situation? Wow. Even in therapy, of course. I feel like that's something that people don't realize about therapy. Therapy is only as much as you want to reveal, of course. You know, and people are like, oh, therapy is the catch all to be, you know, it's a save all for everyone. But unless you come and you are able to be vulnerable and open up, you can just kind of, you know. Yeah, exactly. And then leave and go on your married date. Wait till the next session. [00:05:52] Speaker B: Exactly. So I was like, just doing a check mark, like, telling my mom. Yes. I went. I saw her, whatever it is. But it's like, like I said, when you don't want to help yourself, no one can. [00:06:01] Speaker A: No one can. [00:06:03] Speaker B: So I actually went back and I did the work, which wasn't easy. And I also dec to go into, like, nutrition school, which was mainly just for me. [00:06:14] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:06:15] Speaker B: I was enrolled into, like, business and marketing. I already started the year. And then I was like, no, I'm dropping. And I never dropped anything before that in my life because it's like, it would have been a failure. [00:06:25] Speaker A: Right. [00:06:26] Speaker B: And I was working in the fashion industry, and I quit. [00:06:29] Speaker A: Wow. [00:06:30] Speaker B: And I had a big job. I had a big position, like, very. I was like, the want to say the upcoming rising star. I was like, being in a position of 30s and 40 years old. I was managing a team. I was already, like, in charge of a region. And they were like, okay. She's like, the next thing. And I was like, I can't be here anymore. They're like, why? I'm like, because it's not good for my mental health. Everyone thought I lost my mind. [00:06:55] Speaker A: Yeah. They were like, why would you throw. People are like, you know, especially in fashion, which is such a competitive industry, people are cut throat. [00:07:02] Speaker B: Yes. [00:07:03] Speaker A: You know, and they're working their way for decades, for decades to those positions. [00:07:07] Speaker B: And I was like, no, I can't be here. It's not good. This is a trigger for my eating disorders. Again, that wasn't a reason. It was just another trigger. [00:07:15] Speaker A: Right? [00:07:15] Speaker B: So I needed just to cut my social groups, school and work. So I needed to do serious changes, but I did them all completely. And for me, there was no going back. And I was like, whatever it is, I'll find a way, but I can do this. And then I started like my started like school. The first year was a little bit of a challenge. Not because of school, just because where I was mentally. But then slowly and gradually, I discovered how much I love it, how much I thrive there, and how much I can also give back, because that was a part of my healing process. And then I joined another, like, very well known nutritionist, and she was my mentor for a few years and she taught me a lot. She also, funny enough, came also from a background of eating disorder. So I also, like, found a lot of things that she could relate and I could, you know, learn from her. So for me, that was. And then I found, like, you know, my. I want to say my destiny, my journey, my calling, because that was more of like, this is what I meant to do. And it changed throughout the years with, like, weight loss and eating disorders and type 2 diabetes and kids. So it's like, with the years, I've gained so much knowledge, experience, and different things that I'm passionate, but it always goes under the same umbrella, right? [00:08:35] Speaker A: Oh, my goodness, what a joke. You know, I'm curious, what were some of the tools you talk about? You know, you went traveling, came back, and we're like, okay, I gotta change my life. Like, this is not working anymore. What were some of the tools that helped you, maybe even outside of therapy, to really have that shift and that helped you on your journey? Quitting fashion, feeling confident, moving forward. Like, what were some of the tools and resources that you turned to during that time? [00:09:00] Speaker B: That's a good question, because that time is like, some things are super vivid and some things are not. I think it's a lot of things of the brain, you know, how that, like, mechanism to protect you. But I think first of all, I had a therapist that I loved and that she also was a former anorexic. [00:09:22] Speaker A: Oh, so you had. That she could relate to? [00:09:24] Speaker B: I could relate, I could understand. But then I realized she told me something in the beginning of our therapy sessions. I don't remember, like, it was before. I don't remember if it was before I traveled or after, but there was a session. She told me all of this eating disorders you have is because it's very hard for you to deal with your emotions. [00:09:43] Speaker A: I'm sorry, did you. What did you think when she said that to you? [00:09:45] Speaker B: She doesn't know what she's talking about. [00:09:46] Speaker A: See, I feel like that's because I know that at that age I would have probably said like, what is this? [00:09:52] Speaker B: I was like, what are you talking about? [00:09:53] Speaker A: I'm so. I know what I'm doing. Yeah. [00:09:58] Speaker B: You know, and like my friends, like, he always told me, like, you have a heart. Like you, you're great, but like, you don't have emotions. [00:10:04] Speaker A: Right. [00:10:05] Speaker B: And I'm like, okay. Because I never showed anything from the outside. [00:10:08] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:10:09] Speaker B: I always looked so resilient. [00:10:10] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:10:10] Speaker B: Even though from the inside I was [00:10:12] Speaker A: like, so I can relate to that. It's that type A. Yeah. You know, it's a type A control wanting. Control wanting to be perfect. [00:10:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:10:18] Speaker A: Sorry, do you. Are you the oldest? [00:10:20] Speaker B: Are you new? No, no, I'm sticking. But there's six years difference between me and my brother, so it's kind of like, yeah, it's different versus having a two year old. So I feel like I didn't understand what she's talking about. I was like, what do you mean? I have it all together. And again, you're 20, you think you know it all. And you also don't have the emotional capability of even understanding what it means. And I remember every time I would come to session, I got into another realization. Like something like a door opened. Like I saw, I don't know, call it to see the light. It's a big thing. But to say, like, I saw something and then it's like, okay, I see what are the reasons that I operated in this way? And I see what are the habits? I see what are the, you know, things that trigger that. What are. Whatever it was. And I couldn't go back because once I saw what I was doing, like, once I see see it, you can unsee it. [00:11:14] Speaker A: Right, right. [00:11:14] Speaker B: And it was taking a step, but it was hard. [00:11:18] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:11:19] Speaker B: Because realizing what you've done and how you operated for so long without with being completely disconnected to who you are is kind of shocking. So there was times that I got me depressed. There were times that I was sad. There was time I wouldn't want to get out of bed. But I realized it was a part of the processing and the healing process that I needed to Go through. [00:11:40] Speaker A: Right. [00:11:40] Speaker B: But I was just, for me, I wanted just to be happy. [00:11:45] Speaker A: Yeah, of course, of course. [00:11:47] Speaker B: And it's like working towards that sometimes. It's, it's work. [00:11:51] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:11:51] Speaker B: And I was never afraid of doing the hard work. [00:11:53] Speaker A: Right. [00:11:54] Speaker B: And I always realized, like, working hard is my best friend because I know that if I work hard, I'll get anywhere I want to be right. Because the results will be there because I'm a hard worker. So I knew I'll get there. [00:12:06] Speaker A: Right. That's where the Type A can really serve you. You're like, okay, I know if I just hunker down, do you know what? But then there's that dark side. [00:12:14] Speaker B: There's the dark side which, which all of a sudden, like I needed to let go of like the walls of all the things that I put upon myself and I needed just to be more vulnerable, which is very hard. Very hard. [00:12:25] Speaker A: Yes. For me too. I, I'm. I'm resonating because I'm the same way. And it's something that I know, you know, just personal experience over the last, I would say five years, specifically trying to like surrender and asking for help, you know, like, hey, I'm in over my head, I need help. You know, I feel like when you're type A, you know, I want everything to be perfect. It's difficult to, to come full circle and actually get to that place, you know? [00:12:51] Speaker B: Yeah, it is. And then there's moments where you feel like you can ask for help when you see that. And then there's moments it's just your default is just doing everything yourself, myself, [00:12:59] Speaker A: because I've got it, you know? Exactly. [00:13:02] Speaker B: So. Yeah, so. But I will say that even though having eating disorders was probably. And overcoming it was the hardest thing that I ever done in my life, I wouldn't change a bit from it because it made me who I am today. It made me stronger, it made me more resilient, it made me more appreciative, it made me more connected to my emotion. It helped me in relationships. Like a lot of people that went through severe eating disorders are having a hard time in their relationships, like also finding a husband or whatever it is. So it's six years of intense therapy helped me in so many things in my life that I'm thankful because I don't know that as a 20 year old I would get into such an intensive therapy if I didn't had the eating disorder that had to push me towards that. And yes, looking back, like emotional regulation and things that I needed to work on, but only later when you're stronger internally, you can actually open those wounds and feel that you're strong enough to deal with them. [00:14:06] Speaker A: Right? Absolutely. You know, I love that mindset and that framing because I feel like a lot of times we think about the things that are going wrong in our life as bad events, but I always think about them as growth events. You know, Like, I know I wouldn't be the person I am today without the struggles, without the hardships, without all the rocky times. So I'm curious, what is your approach to nutrition today? And you know, walk me through your philosophy and maybe walk me through some of the core things that you. Foods or, you know, whether it be practices that you default to on a day to day basis. [00:14:38] Speaker B: So my approach was always, I want to say for the past at least 15 years, was like eating real foods. Yeah, like unprocessed food before it became like a trend or whatever it is. So I was like always like, eat real foods. Like avoid the things with tons of ingredients, avoid the seed oils, avoid the things that are artificial, like whatever it is, don't. Diet Coke. Yeah, it doesn't have calories. It's. Is it serving your body? Most likely. [00:15:04] Speaker A: No, it's not, friends, it's not. [00:15:06] Speaker B: I'm not saying don't ever have it in your life, but I'm just saying don't be confused in thinking that calories is the only thing that matters. So I want to say my philosophy, first of all is yes, eating real whole foods. Number two is mind, mindset and positivity. Nothing grows out of a negative environment. And someone who I think helped throughout the years, me and my team, not alone tens of thousands of people lose weight, like significantly, from 10 pounds to even 200 pounds naturally. Nothing like, no, no interventions. I think the thing that I work the most with people is changing their mindset, having a winner mindset. [00:15:45] Speaker A: I'm clapping to the winner. It's foundational. It's so key. And you know what's so sad to me that they don't teach that in schools. [00:15:51] Speaker B: They don't. [00:15:51] Speaker A: They're like, okay, learn a bunch of history, learn a bunch of facts, which I, you know, great, that has a place. But if you don't have the proper mindset, you'll struggle throughout the rest of your life. [00:16:00] Speaker B: 100%. It can be the smartest, the brightest, the sharpest. [00:16:04] Speaker A: Right? [00:16:04] Speaker B: But if you don't have mental resilience, mindset, positive mindset, the ability of knowing that whatever it is, you can do it, you can make it then no way. It's game over. It's game over because then you become a victim of everything. [00:16:16] Speaker A: Right? Right. [00:16:17] Speaker B: Everything. [00:16:18] Speaker A: Yes. And you and I hate to say this, but we see no offense, those people who, they haven't figured out the mindset game. [00:16:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:16:25] Speaker A: And, and it feels like the best analogy is almost like they have like a invisible backpack filled with rocks that [00:16:32] Speaker B: they're carrying around upon their shoulders. [00:16:34] Speaker A: And you're like, man, just get rid of the backpack and your life will be so much freer. You know, it'll be such an unlock. But I feel like a lot of people aren't taught those skills. [00:16:42] Speaker B: They're not taught those skills at all. And that's the one thing that like throughout the years I also done like, like I've studied like coaching and I've done a lot of like you know, courses of like psychology and CBT and positive affirmation and stuff that I learned. But a lot of the things also came from like my personal. Like I always believe that you need to have the knowledge, but also the experience. It has to come together because otherwise you're just reading out of a textbook. You don't really understand what you're talking about. But for me it was like, I can teach you what to eat very easily, very quickly. Like I can teach you what to avoid, what to eat, how to structure, consume the proteins, have the fiber, how to read food labels. I can teach you like probably a lot. [00:17:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:17:25] Speaker B: But I can, I need to make sure that you follow through, that your mindset is positive. That when you fall off the wagon, you go back no matter what, that you feel that you're capable. Not, should have, could have, would have, not, not. It's not your parents fault, it's not your husband's fault, it's not your friend's fault. You are accountable to take responsibility. [00:17:46] Speaker A: I'm just like. Facts. That's facts. And I think that you know, developing that agency. [00:17:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:17:56] Speaker A: Over your life. Like I am responsible for my life. This is my life. The decisions I make, what I put in my body, how I move through the world. It's all me. It's all me on me. [00:18:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:18:05] Speaker A: Versus external circumstances. Like that to me is the key for everything. Yeah. [00:18:10] Speaker B: So it's like the philosophy of food is great, but I feel the philosophy of the mindset is everything. [00:18:15] Speaker A: 100. [00:18:16] Speaker B: So I always like said for me it's 80, 20. It's not 80 20. Rule of like do whatever it wants. 80. I'm gonna on your mindset. 20% I'm going to teach you what to eat, but once your mindset will be there, you're going to succeed and everything. And I've seen my clients throughout the years. They were not just changing their body weight, they were changing their mindset, their emotions, their relationships, their work. Like, people did major changes because all of a sudden, like, many times I've met, and I'm sure you have as well, very successful people in almost every aspect in their life. And somehow when it comes to the weight loss or whatever food, it's one battle they feel they are losing. [00:18:54] Speaker A: Yes. 100. And even the language that they have around it. I'm sure you hear this too. I always listen to people's language. I find it to be fascinating how they speak to themselves and how they speak about situations and the, the language about diet and nutrition and food is negative. Like, they may be, like, super positive in other areas, but it's negative. And it's like very much a hardship language, you know, which I always find interesting. Like, wow, you're such a high performer in these other areas. You know, what is the, you know, maybe stuck point, for lack of a better way? [00:19:26] Speaker B: What is the limiting belief that is, like, guiding you through this? So there was, like, people that I seem, like, super successful in their careers and their personal life and their motherhood, relationships, whatever it is, or parenthood. And then when it came to that, they're like, this is the one thing I can get over. And then once we overcame that and actually help them, you know, persevere and actually see that they can go through that, they felt like they're, they can do anything because now they overcame one of the hardest things. Because, listen, also when it comes to, like, addictions. [00:19:58] Speaker A: Yes. [00:19:59] Speaker B: Food is an addiction. [00:20:00] Speaker A: Food is an addiction. Yes. [00:20:01] Speaker B: It's not defined by the dsm, which is the bible for psychology, you know, and they basically define. So in the dsm, you know, drugs will be an addiction. Sex would be an addiction. Alcohol would be an addiction. Food isn't an addiction because you have to eat food in order to live. [00:20:17] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:20:17] Speaker B: So it's, it's like something that's a necessity. [00:20:19] Speaker A: Right, right. [00:20:20] Speaker B: You don't need drugs to survive. [00:20:22] Speaker A: Right, that's true. But, but, but, you know, the majority [00:20:26] Speaker B: of the population is probably. Food is the number one addiction in the world. [00:20:30] Speaker A: I, I, yes, absolutely. And, you know, not to call out, but food in the US that's a [00:20:37] Speaker B: whole, like, yeah, there's a reason why people get addicted to food. So they don't like the Fine. Even, even if you look at the studies and the research. The research. If we really go into the research, it doesn't say that people get addicted to sugar. Mouse can get. Mice can get addicted to sugar. But people know, oh, okay. But have you ever seen a kid that haven't had his like chocolate bar and they're losing their mind. [00:21:04] Speaker A: They're like a low key unhinged. Yeah. No, it's crazy. [00:21:10] Speaker B: So. So yeah, I get it. That by science. But like, okay, but let's look at the numbers. America is addicted to food. The food industries and the companies know exactly what they're doing. [00:21:21] Speaker A: Exactly. They have genius level scientists who are manipulating the flavor profile to really activate that sweet, salty, savory. All the taste sensors and your, your brain goes into full. Yeah. Dopamine overload. When you're eating some of these. You know, I call them like bright orange snacks. [00:21:39] Speaker B: Yes, exactly. And those beautiful snack packs that are completely designed for kids. They start at a very early age. It changed their taste buds, it changed their hormones, it changed their idea, it changes everything. And then they're just addicted. [00:21:52] Speaker A: Yeah. And then you try to give them like a apple and they're like. [00:21:54] Speaker B: Or what is this? [00:21:55] Speaker A: Or even think about the like paradigm. You know, Halloween's coming up here. I think about the paradigm and I have to say, guilty as charged. When I was a kid, we had like one neighbor that would give out raisins and like little packs of apples and carrots. [00:22:08] Speaker B: And you were all like, what are you doing? [00:22:09] Speaker A: We were like, no, this is the worst house. Like, this house needs to get egged. But we're programmed from a young age to prefer and to desire those sweet, salty, savory snacks. From a young age. [00:22:23] Speaker B: Of course. [00:22:24] Speaker A: Crazy. [00:22:24] Speaker B: And then when you do that and it's like. And it's today, it's a complete overload. You know, it's not even back in the days when we grew up, but there was like, okay, we do Halloween treats. Of course. Yes. It's less for more than a day. [00:22:33] Speaker A: Right. [00:22:33] Speaker B: But now it's like, it's their afternoon snack. It's their in between snack. It's what they eat. That's what this. It's, it's like. Yeah, sometimes people tell me, but we also ate it when we grew up. I'm like, first of all, no. Yeah, it's on the same ingredients. [00:22:45] Speaker A: And then it's not exactly. [00:22:47] Speaker B: Look at what, like the portions we're eating today. And then, and then comes the next step and there's like, obesity is genetic. And I'm like, no, it's not. [00:22:54] Speaker A: It's exactly. [00:22:55] Speaker B: When the FDA said obesity is genetic, I was like, okay, this. [00:23:00] Speaker A: We're doing this now. [00:23:01] Speaker B: Okay, we're now normalizing this. And again, by the way, and I'm gonna say something that is an unpopular opinion. [00:23:09] Speaker A: Oh, I love unpopular opinions. [00:23:10] Speaker B: Like the body positivity movement, you know. [00:23:14] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh. Okay, wait, go. Go for the hot take, because I have some thoughts on this. [00:23:19] Speaker B: Do I think that the 90s and the herring chic and Kate Moss and maybe the ones that are. [00:23:25] Speaker A: That's when I grew up. [00:23:27] Speaker B: I don't know what it is. Do I feel that was extreme? 1,000%. As someone who specialized in eating disorder and was former anorexic, I think it's terrible. [00:23:35] Speaker A: 100%. [00:23:36] Speaker B: Agree more. Couldn't agree more. I do think that even today, the filters and the editing that they're doing and the influencers and the new body image is worse as is. [00:23:45] Speaker A: And the Ozempics. [00:23:46] Speaker B: Ozempic. [00:23:47] Speaker A: We'll talk about it. Oh, my gosh. We got. [00:23:50] Speaker B: But the body positivity of putting someone in a women's health magazine that weighs 400 pounds. I'm sorry, that's not body positive positivity. [00:23:59] Speaker A: Can we clap for the people in the back? You know what? [00:24:01] Speaker B: I. [00:24:02] Speaker A: Listen, this is why I would like. We're here to keep it real. And I have to say I agree. And you know, it's a very unpopular opinion. People. There's different bodies. 100 people have different. You know, you don't need to be [00:24:14] Speaker B: a size 0, not 2, not 6, but. No, I'm not saying. [00:24:16] Speaker A: But when, you know, when, you know you are actually morbidly obese, what can we say? You're morbidly obese. And it's an issue, you know, and we need to be advocating for health. [00:24:30] Speaker B: Yes. [00:24:30] Speaker A: In a way that fits people's body. Again, we're not saying be a size 06, whatever. [00:24:36] Speaker B: Not at all. [00:24:37] Speaker A: But when you look at someone's diet, you know, are they consuming processed food? Are they consuming things that are unhealthy for them? And that's what's led to the situation. Why can't. You know. And it's funny because I, you know, my father's Nigerian. That whole side of the family lives in Nigeria. In Nigeria, when you reach a certain size, they actually, like, shame you and call you, like, very different. Exactly. [00:25:03] Speaker B: Very active also. [00:25:04] Speaker A: 100%. And, you know, I've always found that to be. I remember when we first went to Nigeria and this happened. We were like, oh, you can't say that about someone. Like, that's not right. But, you know, politically. It's not politically correct. Exactly. And to me, it was such a paradigm shift because I'm so used to hear. It's like, oh, you can't talk about someone. You can't say this. But I think that if we're trying to facilitate conversations that are. And there's a way to tell someone [00:25:27] Speaker B: in a positive way. [00:25:28] Speaker A: Yes. Listen, I'm worried about your health. [00:25:31] Speaker B: Yes. [00:25:31] Speaker A: I'm worried about your longevity. And I care about you. And I think that there's a different solution for you. And we want to help you to be healthy. We're not saying be a Runway model. No one says that. [00:25:41] Speaker B: No one says that. [00:25:42] Speaker A: And I think that when you talk about positive positivity, people get upset because they're like, well, you know, woo, woo, woo. You're like, no, it's about longevity and wanting people to be healthy. [00:25:51] Speaker B: It's healthy. It's not about how much you weigh and how you look. It's about being healthy. [00:25:54] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:25:55] Speaker B: Can you be overweight and be healthy? Yes. Can you be mortally obese and be healthy? No. [00:26:02] Speaker A: Facts. [00:26:03] Speaker B: That's the thing. High blood pressure, heart disease, heart disease, insulin resistance, Everything. Everything. It's not an if, it's a when. And again. Do I think that you need to shame someone? No. [00:26:12] Speaker A: No. [00:26:12] Speaker B: Do I think you need to come in a negative way? No. Do I think you need to say something? It's no. But as you said, you can come in a positive, loving, intervening way and say, listen, I love you. I want the best for you. I know this is the hardest, hardest thing you would probably do in your life. [00:26:27] Speaker A: Right. [00:26:28] Speaker B: And I'm. I know that it feels impossible. And I know that it feels even something that you'll never be able to accomplish because it could be that this is how you even remember yourself as a child. But a reality can change. [00:26:41] Speaker A: The reality can change and be. I'm coming. I care about you. [00:26:44] Speaker B: I care about you. [00:26:45] Speaker A: I want you to be here, and I want you to be able to do the things that you want to do in this life. And if you're, you know, your healthy in your. Your, you know, body is impacting that in a negative way. We did just like anything else. You know, if you see someone struggling with their mental health. [00:26:58] Speaker B: Exactly. [00:26:59] Speaker A: You would address it with that. [00:27:01] Speaker B: Exactly. So I find that true friendship and people that I care about. I want to say, I'm going to be the best friend. I'm going to be there. I'm going to be listen, right? I'm. I'm going to be there for you in every given moment. But when you need that wake up call, I'll give it to you in a very positive, loving way. If I feel that it's my place, if I feel like we have that relationship and you're receptive and I know that I can create a positive change. If I feel like I cannot, then I won't. Because I'll never do something that will make a person feel uncomfortable to the fact that it will push them. [00:27:36] Speaker A: Agree. [00:27:37] Speaker B: In a bad way, agree. But I will. And that's the thing with body positivity. It's like it's not what you say, it's how you say. And not only saying but also offering the right support and program follow. Because just going to a person and say hey, you're this, this and that, just shaming them is not the job. You're doing nothing for them just by hurting their self esteem, their confidence and self love. You need to increase their self love, self worth. [00:28:04] Speaker A: Agree. [00:28:04] Speaker B: Positivity. And then positive things will grow. If you're just going to be negative negativity will come. [00:28:10] Speaker A: It's not going to. You know, I actually wish body positivity in our culture today meant that listen, we're encouraging people to feel good about who they. [00:28:17] Speaker B: Exactly. [00:28:18] Speaker A: And that means being healthy and respect your body and respecting your body. Agree. I wish that there was a paradigm shift more to the. But it's become. So it became politically political. Yeah, it really did. [00:28:30] Speaker B: It's like become. It's like it's your political or not. And if you look like you're saying that or this and versus just like saying, listen, let's not normalize obesity, let's normalize health. And it doesn't. The conversation doesn't need to be the size of your pants. And I get that for some people it can be so hard and so difficult. But I also want you to pass the age of 50 and 60 or not to wake up every morning feeling sluggish, feeling lethargic, feeling like you can't walk up the stairs. [00:28:59] Speaker A: Right. Because what kind of life is that? You know? And you shouldn't want that for the people in your life. You should want better for them to be honest. You know, I'm so curious, what's your hot take on it? Ozempic. I have so many thoughts and especially living here in la. I mean I feel like I'm just gonna say I feel like they're trying to hand out Ozempic Like Chiclets. [00:29:18] Speaker B: Yes. [00:29:18] Speaker A: In la. Like, I get targeted for ads on Ozempic. It seems. It seems crazy. It really does seem crazy. It feels like an alternate reality that this is happening and breaking back, you know, as a child of the 90s with the Kate Moss and the like, very waif models, you know, like, it feels like that's everything 90s is coming back. [00:29:38] Speaker B: Everything 90s, including the. [00:29:40] Speaker A: The body, you know, image situation is coming back. So we take on. [00:29:44] Speaker B: Okay, so it's funny, I just literally posted a video on Instagram talking about it. So Now Costco offers OIC and I think Wagoi, which is a different GLP one for 50 off. Like, lovely. [00:29:56] Speaker A: Can we just have a Costco? [00:30:00] Speaker B: What's up, Costco? I love you, Costco. I love you. [00:30:03] Speaker A: But listen, I'm trying to come for bulk, you know, groceries and produce, not big. [00:30:09] Speaker B: So. Yeah. So first of all, I want to say I appreciate because they are adding a lot of healthy stuff and I love that shift like everyone else are doing, doing. But. And again, it's not even Costco. It's like obviously the pharmaceutical company. So basically Ozempic, which I know for many years from, from type 2 diabetes, is GLP1. It's like it mimics the hormones of GLP1, right? That helps to basically suppress your appetite. It helps with how, like it. It's. That slows down how fast you metabolize and break down the food and it creates more satiety. And then from that you basically, you're just not hungry and you lose weight rapidly. But another thing that happens is that you also majority you lose more muscle mass and then there's like horrific side effects, like, like stomach paralysis. It has like, you know, it damages your eye vision, your thyroid. It puts you in a risk for depression. It puts you in risk for cancers. It puts you at a crazy risk. [00:31:04] Speaker A: I didn't know all of that. [00:31:05] Speaker B: Yeah. And another thing that they don't tell you is that once you get on it, you probably need to stay for it for the rest of your life because otherwise your hunger levels will go back up and it messes up your metabolism. [00:31:16] Speaker A: I didn't know. I only heard about the GI issue. [00:31:18] Speaker B: Yeah, GI are really bad. Nausea and vomiting and weaknesses and all of those things. And also another thing they don't talk about is depression. It really also. I work, I have a lot of colleagues that are therapists and, and we always work together with like, you know, patients together and clients. And a lot of them, they say, like, we feel like this Client had became more and more depressed ever since he got on GLP1. And what are the things that we can do and work on? So, yeah, so I have not heard [00:31:50] Speaker A: anyone talk about this. [00:31:51] Speaker B: No. Because they don't. But now they have, like, I think 2, 000 lawsuits already filed against them in the past, like, year. [00:31:57] Speaker A: Oh, no. [00:31:58] Speaker B: But the thing is this. [00:31:59] Speaker A: Oh, dear. [00:32:00] Speaker B: GLP1 for severe type 2 diabetes, people that are metabolically broken, meaning that, like, you know, whatever they take in, whether it's the shots or Metformin or whatever it is, isn't improving and they can do the correct lifestyle changes or they have and they still need the Ozempic. Yes. [00:32:19] Speaker A: Yes. [00:32:19] Speaker B: Because diabetes is a very, very problematic metabolic syndrome. [00:32:23] Speaker A: Yes. [00:32:24] Speaker B: And then for people who are extremely obese. Yes. It could be a good start because the side effects of being mortally obese is also very dangerous. So doing that, you know, kickstart to start off with can be good to lose 10, 20 pounds, never. [00:32:41] Speaker A: And that's what you're. There's no way people are like, oh, that is a quote of the day. There are no free meals. No. I feel like that's what's happening. People are handling it. Oh, you know, oh, you want to lose. And I actually am seeing ads that are that messaging like, oh, you know, I wanted to lose those last stubborn £10. I wanted to lose those 20, whatever it may be. And I feel like this psychology, like, it's warping people's psychology. You know what I mean? And it's not. It's creating a paradigm where we're not thinking about, hey, what am I eating? Like, how do I improve my diet? You know, it's like, hey, I'm actually curious, though, because I've heard in the Ozempic conversation. [00:33:23] Speaker B: Yes. [00:33:23] Speaker A: A lot about hormones. [00:33:24] Speaker B: Yes. [00:33:26] Speaker A: How do you feel like, you know, our hormones impact how we eat, how we think about food, emotional eating. And do you feel like. I keep hearing people say, like, you know, like, hey, I'm a woman of a certain age, my hormones out of whack. Which is facts and true. [00:33:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:33:42] Speaker A: So that's why I'm moving to Ozempic, you know, so multi tiered question, you know, what do you think about hormones and how it impacts how we eat? And then is Ozempic the solution for that? [00:33:52] Speaker B: Okay, so there's a few layers to answer in here. Yes. Hormones are like the big boss of your body. [00:33:58] Speaker A: Yes. [00:33:59] Speaker B: They regulate everything. And it's not just feminine hormone or, like masculine one, like testosterone or like estrogen or progesterone or whatever it is. It's everything. It's your insulin, it's your leptin, it's your ghrelin. It's. It's basically that we have a lot of hormones. Nine of them are really play a major role in your body. [00:34:18] Speaker A: Right. Right. [00:34:19] Speaker B: Now, the thing is, is that we do see the lack. Well, I want to say people with, like, imbalance. Hormonally imbalanced. [00:34:28] Speaker A: Right. [00:34:29] Speaker B: And that happens because of our food, because of our environment, because the lotions that we put on ourselves, because the candles that we put, because fragrance, because of everything. A lot of things are hormonal disruptors. And it starts at a very early age. So is it justified that many people feel that they're hormonally imbalanced? Yes. Oh. So women are taking the pill since the age of whatever, 16, 20, and some didn't get their PRH for 20 [00:34:52] Speaker A: years, which is like. [00:34:53] Speaker B: Yes. So. So there's a lot of reasons for that right. Now, when you're overweight. [00:35:01] Speaker A: Right. [00:35:01] Speaker B: Known. [00:35:02] Speaker A: Right. [00:35:02] Speaker B: A lot of your hormones goes out of bounds from your thyroid, from your progesterone, from your estrogen, because your body is not in a comfortable place. So losing weight will happen, will help that. Even, like, when we're talking about getting pregnant, right. Women with pcos, which is basically having cysts in their. Like. [00:35:22] Speaker A: Or like. [00:35:23] Speaker B: Like that. And also insulin resistance, the one thing that helps the most, and especially when I work with, like, IVF doctors, it's like, we want them to lose weight because that's what helps them to get pregnant. So there is. Yeah. So there is a lot of positivity in weight loss, right? There is, right. So it's. Again, it's, what are you getting? What are you losing? What are the chances? And is there a way to do it in a safer way? And again, you took the GLP one, you lost the weight. Have you really created the habits, the habits that are now going to take you for the longer place? Like, is it like, do you know what to eat at restaurants? Have you learned how to cook? Do you know what to do in the grocery shopping? Do you know how to go on vacation and not to go full blonde? Do you know how to maybe have a hard day? And even if you ate your entire pantry to know how to go back on track? [00:36:13] Speaker A: Right. What do you. I'm actually curious because I hear a lot of people talk about emotional eating. Like, what do you feel like triggers or in your work with your clients, what is triggering their emotional eating and what are the tips that you typically give them to self regulate or to overcome emotional eating. [00:36:29] Speaker B: So the first thing I would say is before we're even talking about the emotional eating, is that they need to physically balance themselves. Meaning I need them to eat structured meals, two to three meals a day. I need them to increase their protein, I need them to get rid of ultra processed food. I need them to stop not eating all day and then come back home in the afternoon. And then their blood sugar level level crashed. They're starving. Their ghrelin levels are so high and off the roof that it doesn't matter what they eat. They're just gonna eat everything that comes along their way. [00:36:55] Speaker A: Right, right. [00:36:56] Speaker B: So there's emotional eating and then there's just bad eating habits that creates those binge eating and then it's like a loop and this, it's this like vicious cycle that you just go into that. So even when someone comes to me with like a lot of emotional eating, which is a lot of the people, I first physically balance that them. [00:37:15] Speaker A: Then how do you do that? Like is it exercises? [00:37:17] Speaker B: So I would say no, no, no. First of all, I would say I would get them like I would remove the ultra processed food out of their diet. I would get them in a high protein breakfast. [00:37:25] Speaker A: Right. [00:37:26] Speaker B: I would tell them that carbs are not the enemy. That they can have like a slice of bread with like their whatever, eggs. So much carbs. [00:37:33] Speaker A: Villainizing. [00:37:34] Speaker B: No, but like the, the carbs that you want to avoid, you want to probably avoid the deep fried potato chips with whatever it is, but you can have a piece of sourdough bread, sweet potatoes, regular potatoes, whatever it is, like it feels food. [00:37:45] Speaker A: Yes. [00:37:46] Speaker B: So they need to be full, they need to be satisfied. We need to increase their water intake. They have to have a big lunch. Something in the American culture of not having a lunch, a proper lunch, it's so strange. And then you're starving in the afternoon and then you're having too much of a big dinner. [00:38:01] Speaker A: Right. [00:38:03] Speaker B: So first of all, I would say you need to get your hormones in place when it comes to like eating and you need to have your routine in place. And then listen, emotional eating is something that by the way, like almost happens since we were born. Even like a crying baby gets like, you know, comforted in his mom, like whether she's breastfeeding or a bottle. [00:38:26] Speaker A: I never thought about that way. That's so true. [00:38:28] Speaker B: Food is comforting. Food is our culture and food is our memories. You know, you'll probably have things that your parents would make for whatever traditional or special occasions for sure. Reminds you a lot of things. So we cannot disconnect food from emotions. [00:38:45] Speaker A: Right, right. [00:38:46] Speaker B: Comes together. But the thing is, is that whether every thought, every time we feel an overwhelming emotion that we can deal with, we turn into food. And that's where the emotional regulation needs to happen. It's like you had a bad day, you turn into food. You had a good day, you turn into food, you feel discouraged, you turn into food. So that's exactly where it is, is that you actually need. Need to deal with that emotion. [00:39:10] Speaker A: Right, right. And that feedback. [00:39:12] Speaker B: Because what happens, it's just, it's. It's an outlet. It's just like, it's like zooming out of the situation because it's easier to say, oh, why did I eat that cookie? Versus saying, my boss really annoyed me today. I feel so unappreciated. My husband doesn't love me. Whatever it is that you're feeling. But it's easier to say, I can't believe I ate that burger. I'm such a failure. Yeah, it's easier to deal with that than dealing like the emotion. Emotional stuff. And that's what I said at the beginning. Food is always the result. It's the outcome. It's never the reason. [00:39:40] Speaker A: Yeah, I, you know, again, these are things I wish. I feel like there's like a whole other. I'm like, think podcast that's like things I wish we were taught. [00:39:50] Speaker B: You know, like, and that the schools need to teach. [00:39:55] Speaker A: Why are we teaching this too? You know, emotional regulation, you know, how to like, man. How to down regulate your nervous system as well. You know, when things are how to speak openly about the things you're struggling with. [00:40:07] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:40:07] Speaker A: Instead of internalizing it and turning to alcohol, food, drugs, whatever it may be, like addictions. Things I wish we were taught. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:40:15] Speaker B: And I will one say, for the parents out here that are listening, there's a great book, it's called the Hotel of Emotions that explains kids that you're the owner of your own emotions and what each emotion says and means and how you can address to that and how does it make them feel in the body and how they can respond and react to that. [00:40:34] Speaker A: Right. [00:40:35] Speaker B: Which is something that all adults also need to do. But for kids. [00:40:37] Speaker A: For kids. Yeah. We got to teach, teach them young. Because adults, there's a lot more to overcome. [00:40:42] Speaker B: There's a lot more. There's lots more things that we need to do. [00:40:44] Speaker A: A lot more resistance to overcome. [00:40:46] Speaker B: Exactly. [00:40:47] Speaker A: So one of the things I Want to ask you, social media, we're talking. We were talking a little bit about TikTok and Instagram, the influence that it has, you know, on our lives. What do you think about all of the social media hype on nutrition? I see nutrition. Well, excuse me, I'm not gonna call. There's people who claim to know about nutrition, but they're not credentialed at all. Telling people what to eat, telling people to try this, telling people to do this. How do you feel like the social media echo chamber has impacted our view of nutrition and diet and healthy lifestyles? [00:41:18] Speaker B: So I think, like everything else on social media, there's the positive and there's the negative. I think from the positive, I think it's like kind of, at least from my point of view, I want to say, revealed a lot of like, you know, the food companies and the pharmaceutical companies and what they put in our food. And people are a little bit less, like, they kind of understand what they're doing and they know to choose better. [00:41:40] Speaker A: Right. [00:41:41] Speaker B: And they're more aware that there are other options and alternatives. From that perspective, it's great. [00:41:45] Speaker A: Great. [00:41:45] Speaker B: On the other perspective, I think that, again, it pushed a lot of eating disorders, a lot of body dysmorphia, a lot of unrealistic, like, listen, on social media, you show one side. Yes, exactly. It's a. First of all, there's people that don't know what they're talking about. They're not experts, they haven't taken a course in their life, and they just go with what's trendy and it's fine. But what's missing is another skill is the critical thinking. [00:42:15] Speaker A: Yeah. Things. I wish we were taught [00:42:20] Speaker B: that critical thinking. But what I want to say is this and how to say it, because it's not the conversation who says what. It's number one. Know what works for you. [00:42:30] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:42:30] Speaker B: Whatever someone tells you, whether it's intermediate fasting, carnivore, veganism, calories, whatever it is. See, what works for your body, what works for one person, doesn't necessarily mean that it works for you and the lifestyle you have and your abilities and the means. And whatever it is that you have, it's something else. It's a different person. So first of all, do the small steps and take things that you feel that you can do. Do not feel like a failure or feel overwhelmed. If you see someone who wakes up at 5, goes for a run, drinks a smoothie, comes back, they're most likely showing you the best day of their life or not. And that's the life they chose to live. Know which life you live. [00:43:08] Speaker A: You're living it. Exactly. And be at. Be at peace with that. [00:43:11] Speaker B: You know, like, take one step or one habit at a time to create those changes. [00:43:18] Speaker A: Right. [00:43:18] Speaker B: I want to say yes. Go with, like, eating the real foods and whatever it is, because no one can say otherwise. And if they do, there's a lot of money interest in there. And then I feel like, like, don't scroll too much, don't listen too much. Yes. Go to professionals outside of social media to either validate or show you the way. [00:43:38] Speaker A: Right, Right. [00:43:39] Speaker B: That is tailored for you. [00:43:41] Speaker A: Right, Right. [00:43:42] Speaker B: There's the individuality that is extremely important. And again, social media is not real life. You don't have to follow a person who lives this extreme life because again, it's like taking a business advice from someone, I don't know, whatever, like Steve Jobs back in the day. Can you take advices from him? Yes. 100. Will you become him? [00:44:03] Speaker A: Right. [00:44:04] Speaker B: Most likely not. [00:44:05] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:44:05] Speaker B: But you can still take advices from that. Compare. But there's something in the nutrition world, like, I want to look like him. I want to be like him. No, you're not. Take those advices. Take what works for you. [00:44:15] Speaker A: Right. [00:44:15] Speaker B: And put it upon yourself, like, do not try to be something you're not, because that will, again, take you into that negative mindset that you cannot do it, you cannot accomplish it, and it will set you back versus actually giving you that, like, push and positive change that you want to create. [00:44:31] Speaker A: Absolutely. Absolutely. I want to ask you two questions because this. This has been on the top of my mind. Two questions in one. [00:44:37] Speaker B: Okay. [00:44:38] Speaker A: How do you know if a diet is unsustainable? So I'm going to give you the backstory here. We had. I had a friend come to me and they're like, yeah, I'm like, Carnivore. And I'm only doing Carnivore and Carnivore. Carnivore. I like to. No disrespect to them, but they seem. It seems great. And I'll say. And, you know, they're struggling now with their energy. They're struggling now with, like, constipation, you know, Sorry. Like, I'm putting this information out, you know, so I'm like, is it really working? Is that really sustainable for them? And then I want to ask another question because I think about this too. Going into aisles and feeling over. Especially if you're on a program or a diet. How do you then unpack nutrition labels when you're on some type of regimen, like what are the things that you tell clients to look for, whether or not they're on a program? So two kind of opposite questions in one. But I want to make sure I don't forget these. [00:45:34] Speaker B: So for the Carnivore diet, listen, I think that anything that is extreme, the question is this. If you're on a diet, carnivore, veganism, whatever it is, and I'll talk about Carnivore in a second, can you do this now for the next 10 years of your life? If the answer is yes, great. If the answer is no, then this is not for you. Can you go on a higher meat diet? Yes. Can you eliminate ultra processed food? Yes. Can you go more into like whole foods, the high quality dairy? Move more into organic stuff? Yes. [00:46:06] Speaker A: Yes. [00:46:07] Speaker B: But if your energy is depleted. [00:46:12] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:46:13] Speaker B: If you don't sleep well, if you're constipated, then this is not the diet for you. [00:46:18] Speaker A: Yeah, for sure. [00:46:19] Speaker B: My husband actually went on a high meat diet this year, not Carnivore meat diet. And he felt the best that he felt in his life. [00:46:28] Speaker A: Right. So that's. [00:46:29] Speaker B: It works for him, it's great. But he's not extreme. Will go to Italy, he'll eat whatever it is. But again, there's basics, but there's no extremeness. And if he would feel bad, and I'm talking about him because it's easier because I can say it's my husband versus like other clients. Yeah. But it's like if his energy would have been depleted, if he wouldn't feel good, if his skin would break out, if it would feel like he's constipated, then he would know 100 that it's not for him and not because someone said online that Carnivore is the best. Your body is talking. [00:46:59] Speaker A: Listen, listen. Exactly. Like, I remember one time I went on a strict vegan situation and I, my, I had anemia. Anemia. I was anemic. I felt tired. [00:47:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:47:09] Speaker A: Like people were like, your skin looks like dull. [00:47:11] Speaker B: It's not for you. [00:47:12] Speaker A: And it wasn't for me. I was like, you know, that I gotta let it go. And I let it go and I introduced me and back and I just felt better. Better. And my anemia has gone away. And you know, also I do supplement as well. But, but it just worked, you know, and I, I feel like, yeah. Listening to your body is key. Especially when all the marketing. I'm a marketer too. [00:47:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:47:32] Speaker A: Marketers will try to sell you all sorts of things. So you've got to be aware. [00:47:37] Speaker B: You got to be aware and you have to have that critical thinking. But also know that by the way, something can work for you for six months or eight months and then all of a sudden changes and your body change or where you are at in your life changed and now you want something different. [00:47:51] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:47:51] Speaker B: So that can be. And then for food reading, food labels, one of the things that I always taught my clients and that's. We also just launched a new membership that basically. Yes. [00:48:01] Speaker A: Congratulations. [00:48:02] Speaker B: Thank you. So for years, like I have online programs and I coach clients one on one. But then I was like, there's so much information that I created throughout the years with like kids, obesity, 40 plus, postpartum pregnancy, weight loss, type 2 diabetes, that I decided to consolidate all under one umbrella to make it like super accessible for like 20 to $30 per month and to give them tons of information of everything from how to read food labels, market videos, weight loss videos, challenges, everything. And in there, I also teach them how to read food labels because that's, in my opinion, something that is a must. [00:48:42] Speaker A: Yeah. For every person it is 100. [00:48:46] Speaker B: So it would be like, it would be like. Ingredients are listed in order of quantity. So the first one is the majority. So the first three ingredients are about 80% of your product. So you need to know that. So if the first three ingredients are like oil, sugar, whatever it is, it's [00:48:59] Speaker A: mainly, we need to know, we need [00:49:00] Speaker B: to leave that if a product contains more than 10 ingredients, it's usually considers to be ultra processed. If you can't read and pronounce the ingredients, it's probably way, way too processed for you. So I would say you want to stick to between 1 to 5, which would be ideal, 5 to 10 at the worst case. Not go over that. And then when you go down the supermarket. Supermarket aisles, I want to say the. The external ones, like the meat, the fish, the food, the produce are on there. The more you go into the inner aisles, the more processed it is. [00:49:30] Speaker A: Yeah, 100%. That's the box zone, [00:49:36] Speaker B: I would say, is that learning how to read food labels, even if you're not an expert, is a skill that in today's world everyone should have. [00:49:45] Speaker A: Agree. I couldn't agree. You know what's been bugging me is all of these sweeteners. So what's the Malodextrin or one of the Metodextrin? [00:49:55] Speaker B: Yeah, and it's sugar. [00:49:57] Speaker A: Raises your blood sugar even more than. And there was another one. Is it Malitol? It could Be there's another one that people are putting in, like healthy organic products. [00:50:05] Speaker B: So there's erythrol, melatol, stevia, monk fruit. I personally, even though monk fruit and CB whatever considered to be more safe, I prefer like real sugar, like maple cane sugar, honey, in like small amounts versus all of those, like, you know, replacements. [00:50:20] Speaker A: Right. [00:50:21] Speaker B: And then again, high fructose corn syrup, maladoxin, all of those, they really spike your blood sugar level. But it's really low quality sugar with high levels of fructose. That basically just shows you the level and the quality of the quality of the product. Like, it's usually a low quality problem. [00:50:38] Speaker A: That junk in it. Stay away from that. Stay away from that. Friends, I want us to move on to our true and false. I love this segment. We've given Corinne a paddle like this one. So this is for true. This is for false. I'm going to rapid fire ask you a whole bunch of questions and you're going to give us the deeds of it. True or false. Okay, so the first one, detoxing from sugar means being miserable. [00:51:04] Speaker B: False and true. Because the first three days. Oh, we got a two header. The first three days will be hard facts, but then you're going to feel amazing. So both. [00:51:15] Speaker A: 100. Whenever I've done sugar. Sorry, I know this is not in the rules of true or false, but I'm, I've got to share this. Whenever I've done a sugar detox, those first three days are the worst. A wrap. I'm like, you won't see me for three days. Exactly. Then you feel great. Okay, next one. Hormone health starts with food. [00:51:30] Speaker B: Sure. [00:51:32] Speaker A: Low carb diets are good for hormones. [00:51:34] Speaker B: Not true. Oh, wait, but it's both because it depends if we're going like carnivore or zero carbs. It's not necessarily good because women do need some carbs and they work differently. But if we're talking about I'm eating everything that I want and all of a sudden I'm more mindful and I'm cutting back on something. Carbs, then it is true. So it really depends on what we're talking about. [00:51:59] Speaker A: Okay, all right, all right. Fruit causes sugar crashes like candy. [00:52:04] Speaker B: Hate that. [00:52:05] Speaker A: I hear that all the time for people. And people like are are going on the I cut out fruit bandwagon trophy tour. They're like, yeah, I cut out fruit. I don't eat fruit. [00:52:15] Speaker B: So fruits are like a true superfood. So they're filled with antioxidants, fiber, vitamins, minerals, and then do they have a lot of sugar. Okay. Yeah. Banana has a lot of sugar, which also has, you know, potassium in it. It also had antioxidants in it, and it's also filled with fiber. So to compare that to like, what, Skittles? It's kind blows my mind. Like this. [00:52:36] Speaker A: Thank you. I'm glad we cleared that one up. Protein helps regulate hormones. [00:52:41] Speaker B: True. [00:52:42] Speaker A: Okay. Your gut affects your mood and cravings. [00:52:46] Speaker B: True. [00:52:48] Speaker A: Weight is a reliable sign of health. [00:52:51] Speaker B: Yes and no. [00:52:52] Speaker A: This is kind of like what we're talking about earlier. [00:52:54] Speaker B: Yes and no. Because you can be a little bit overweight and you can be extremely, you know, healthy. You work out, you take good care of your health. You can also be like, super skinny and don't eat well and like, not work out. So it's not exactly. Yes to. To extreme points. [00:53:10] Speaker A: Right. [00:53:10] Speaker B: But in the middle, it changes. [00:53:12] Speaker A: Yeah, totally. Cutting sugar means cutting all carbs. [00:53:16] Speaker B: No, because when we're talking about sugar, we're talking about simple sugar and we're not talking about complex carbs. Yes, all carbs eventually turn into sugar, but it's much more complex. It has more molecules, and it's not exactly the same. [00:53:33] Speaker A: Cravings always mean something is wrong. [00:53:39] Speaker B: Not exactly. Yes and no. Okay, so having some cravings before you need to get your periods or whatever it is, or hormonals, like even whatever it could be, does it mean you're 100 balanced? No. But to get to that perfect balance, it's really hard. But if you have cravings on a daily basis, non stop, then it means your body's off. It means you're not giving it what it needs. So again, it depends to what extent if you have cravings. Non stop. Yes. If you have it every now and then. Not necessarily. [00:54:09] Speaker A: Okay, all right, all right. We're gonna jump into rapid fire friends. So I'm gonna give you a bunch of questions. You have about a minute to answer them. We're not gonna have time to time them. Yeah, we're just gonna like, just quick, keep you honest. Okay, so what's the first thing you eat when you're craving sugar? [00:54:27] Speaker B: Probably chocolate or a cookie. [00:54:30] Speaker A: Me too. Chocolate. Totally. What's worse, skipping meals or overeating? [00:54:34] Speaker B: Skipping meals will create you overeating. [00:54:36] Speaker A: So facts friends, facts friends. What's your take on cheat meals? Do they help or hurt? [00:54:42] Speaker B: I hate that word, cheat meals. [00:54:44] Speaker A: Like you're cheating. [00:54:45] Speaker B: You're not cheating. I feel like, first of all, again, when I used to do like full on diets and like sports nutrition, then. Yeah, because they're so strict. And whatever it is, the thing is, is that. Do I think that one meal will make you. You unhealthy? No, it's like, I don't think that if you're eating unhealthy, one meal will make you healthy. [00:55:05] Speaker A: Right, Right. [00:55:05] Speaker B: So I feel like that if you feel like you want to have go and eat something that is unhealthy in your book, just go enjoy it. Don't categorize it under everything, because that's, again, that vicious cycle that you go into. [00:55:17] Speaker A: Yeah, that. That language where we're talking about language that cheat, you know, it's so negative. [00:55:22] Speaker B: So negative. [00:55:23] Speaker A: Yeah. Food we think is healthy that actually isn't. [00:55:27] Speaker B: I want to say the. All the meat and vegan replacements, like the Beyond Burger and whatever. Like, I feel like that kind of like left the building. [00:55:35] Speaker A: Well, I gotta give you one of those. [00:55:37] Speaker B: But it's still there. No, it's not healthy. And I'm not saying you can choose not to eat meat. [00:55:41] Speaker A: 100. [00:55:42] Speaker B: So eat beans. Eat like, you know, you can do soy. That is like organic, non gmo. You can do a lot of things. But all of those replacements. So process. [00:55:51] Speaker A: You read the ingredients. You're like, like, what is going on with this thing? Yuck. Food you recommend during hormonal pms. [00:56:00] Speaker B: So I want to say proteins to help, like, reduce sugar cravings and healthy fats like seeds, avocado, and whatever it is they do help with, like, estrogen and progesterone regulation a little bit more. [00:56:11] Speaker A: Okay. [00:56:12] Speaker B: And also chickpea, sweet potatoes, and carrots. [00:56:14] Speaker A: M all I love. What diet advice do you wish would disappear forever? [00:56:20] Speaker B: Eat 1200 calories. [00:56:22] Speaker A: Oh, and I see there's actually tons of those Reddit groups that like, 1200 is plenty and. Yeah, yeah, yikes, yikes, yikes. Conversely, what's a food trend that you secretly love? I don't know. [00:56:33] Speaker B: I was thinking about it. I don't have an answer. Like, I dislike Matcha. [00:56:37] Speaker A: You were talking about this because I. We were talking about. [00:56:40] Speaker B: Never liked it. I don't get it. [00:56:42] Speaker A: So controversial. [00:56:43] Speaker B: It's like drinking, like, do I understand. Understand the health benefits? [00:56:46] Speaker A: Yes, Yes. [00:56:47] Speaker B: I think it's like drinking grass. And listen, it's like, to the fact that poshy places and I drank Matcha. No. My husband brought me this, like, amazing one from Japan. Like, no, guys, no, I don't like it. It doesn't work for me. Just doesn't. [00:57:01] Speaker A: I feel like Matcha is so polarizing because I. We were talking about this earlier, before the Podcast starts. I drink a matcha every day. Do I like it? No. Do I drink it because of the health benefits? Yes. And I try to like, like, you know, judge it up, but it's still. It's not. Let's just not. [00:57:17] Speaker B: It's drinkable, but. [00:57:18] Speaker A: Yeah, it's drinkable, but it's not. Yeah, exactly. I'm drinking it quick. We're gonna move on to our next section, which is all about breaking down wild trends. So we're even talking about social media. We've scoured Tick Tock and the Gram for some wild trends. I'm gonna lay these on. I'd love your hot take. Oat zempic overnight oats for weight loss via fiber and protein. I'm seeing this everywhere. I'm seeing Tick Tocks being like, oh, oats, epic oats epic. Blah, blah, blah. [00:57:45] Speaker B: So listen, fiber is great. It's again, GLP1. The hormones, it mimics it like, and creates satiety. Fiber helps with satiety and fullness. So will it help? Yes. Will it suppress your appetite like Ozempic? No way. Ever. [00:58:01] Speaker A: People, people, why are you out here, like, listening? [00:58:05] Speaker B: We have been consuming oats for years. We're not getting better. [00:58:08] Speaker A: Exactly. This next one, seed cycling to balance estrogen and progesterone. [00:58:15] Speaker B: Yeah. So there is like this take that. If you do like pumpkin seeds and zinc, it helps to like sometimes detox some of the estrogen. Helps with progesterone. We don't have the science behind it and never mind the science. I've never seen anyone who like, really completely personally. Yeah. That I worked with. [00:58:33] Speaker A: Right. [00:58:33] Speaker B: Do I think it's great as an additional. As a hormonal balanced diet? Yes. Do I think the, you know, the answer is there? Most likely no. But I think it has great health benefits. [00:58:45] Speaker A: Yeah. This one, one of my actually favorite influencers was posting videos about this one raw carrot salad as a hormone fix all they're talking about how it actually removes estrogen from the body. [00:58:57] Speaker B: So basically they're saying that it can help with like excess estrogen. But the question is how much you [00:59:04] Speaker A: know, like, how many carrots are you, like Bugs Bunny style? Like, how do you just laugh? [00:59:09] Speaker B: Do you do that? And then the question is that, like, how do you actually know what I'm. I would say is that probably consuming more fiber, more raw fruits and vegetables and whatever it is is beneficial for overall your hormonal health. And it could be just to say that eating that alone with changing nothing else in the your diet would help. I. I'VE never seen that again. Could it be harmful? Most likely not. [00:59:34] Speaker A: Right, right. Very interesting. And then this last one, cortisol aware eating. So people timing their food around stress cycles. [00:59:42] Speaker B: I do agree with that. [00:59:43] Speaker A: Okay. [00:59:44] Speaker B: I don't like, like those timings. It's like weighing the food. Like I feel like it puts more stress right even. But I do feel that like people don't prioritize enough. Like, like eating on time and making sure they nourish their body and support it. Because it's like I always say, like we take so much from our body. It's like a bank account. Right. So you can deposit, deposit, deposit. But if you're just gonna use the money there, at some point, you're not gonna have money left the same like your body, you also need to nourish it and to give it in return. So we are on a high cortisol, high stress, high demanding all the time from our body. So we definitely need to give it in return. So timing your meals and actually making sure you're nourishing your body is, is a great idea. It's like prioritizing your health and I'm all about that. Whether, however you want to call it, [01:00:31] Speaker A: call it super quick. Before we go into Reddit rabbit hole, how about tracking cal? There's all these apps to track your calories, your macros. What are your thoughts there? Does that drive. [01:00:40] Speaker B: I know, like, listen, does the calorie hypothesis works? Yes. Will you be on a calorie deficit? Will you lose weight? Yes. [01:00:50] Speaker A: Right, right, right, right. [01:00:52] Speaker B: But I think that you also need to take under consideration ingredients, protein habits, whatever it is. So I want to say is that we have to take that in under consideration. But just like counting calories and then consuming a protein bar with 50 ingredients. No, but understanding how it works, yes. But overall, if you're probably gonna eat food that are nourishing for you. [01:01:14] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:01:15] Speaker B: You're gonna lose weight with that. [01:01:17] Speaker A: That. Right, right. Thank you. Thank you for that. We are going to do a quick jump into our Reddit rabbit hole. So we scoured Reddit and we have just a few questions I'm going to ask you. I'm going to read this first one. So it's in the nutrition subreddit. This person says, what causes sugar cravings and is there a way to get rid of them? They go on to say, I've read that if someone's craving sugar and sweets, they should eat more protein, drink some water. But I observed that only lasts temporarily. Are there things to eat or substitute that can help help kick a sugar craving for good. [01:01:47] Speaker B: So there's a few things. Yes. First of all, eating, consuming more proteins. But I would combine it with complex carbs and like healthy fats. Also there are some supplements and herbs that can help throughout the years. I really help with like sugar detox and actually created a formula of my supplement that is called the craving Buster that basically has cinnamon that helps to regulate your blood sugar level. Gymnana, which is an Indian herb that also helps with sugar cravings. Chromium, that helps insulin resistance. So there's ways also to use berberine. So there's. Sorry. Ways to use natural stuff as that as well. With consuming protein, not having too much of a big gap in between meals and also knowing that it takes like 72 hours for your body to start regulating on that. [01:02:31] Speaker A: Good to know. I'm gonna give you one last one in the red rabbit hole. So what's the best diet for longevity, do you think? Think someone says, what do you think is the best diet for health and longevity? What diet has given you the best results? [01:02:44] Speaker B: So listen, overall, throughout the years, we always talk about the Mediterranean diet, which would be like a combination of eating real foods, beans, you know, whatever it is. Like we see that in the blue zones, which is areas where people have the longest longevity. I want to say eating real foods would be the one thing. And then for some people, they need higher amounts of protein, some need less. You need to prioritize your sleep, you need to drink enough water and you have to be active. [01:03:10] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:03:11] Speaker B: And you need to also consider not only what you eat, but a diet is also what you listen to, who you spend time with, what you watch on tv, what you scroll on your phone. [01:03:22] Speaker A: Yes. Mental diet is key. You know the mental diet. We have just one last segment for you. What's in your bag? So we've asked Karen to bring a bag filled with things for our what's in the bag segment. I would love for you to pull out. [01:03:37] Speaker B: Okay. [01:03:38] Speaker A: What's in your bag? [01:03:38] Speaker B: So I have SPF from primarily pure. I do a lot of like laser treatments for my face. [01:03:44] Speaker A: Okay. [01:03:44] Speaker B: Because I'm like going in more into like natural beauty. So less like injections and Botox. [01:03:48] Speaker A: Okay. [01:03:49] Speaker B: Okay. So I have to wear sunscreen. [01:03:51] Speaker A: Oh, can I see this? This is like such a nice, like, like a stick. [01:03:54] Speaker B: So Primarily Pure is like a non toxic brand. It's made from zinc dioxide, it's mineral all. So they have the regular one. The stick is just very like easy to put on you. Yeah, exactly. You can smell it. You can put it if you want. [01:04:08] Speaker A: Oh, it doesn't have, like. Yeah, it doesn't have, like, a smell. [01:04:10] Speaker B: It's unscented. Yeah. They don't use. Nice. [01:04:12] Speaker A: Okay, okay. [01:04:13] Speaker B: They don't use anything. [01:04:14] Speaker A: So you get a shot of all the. The goodies in the. I always. I love seeing what people care, you know, it's, like, endlessly fascinating. [01:04:20] Speaker B: I have my two supplements, the Me so the craving Buster. It's all natural ingredients. It has the cinnamon, the bitter melon. It has. It has B1, it has Berberine, it has Jumanana. So this really helps to fight blood sugar levels, cravings, aids, supports weight loss. [01:04:38] Speaker A: That's cool. This is amazing. [01:04:40] Speaker B: And then my hormonal balance, which I created actually for me postpartum after my second baby, because I felt like I need that balance. And I always like to use natural stuff. So it has ashwagandha that helps to support, like, stress. Ginkgo biloba for focus and memory, because our memory. And then royal jelly pollen and chest berry. So it's all natural. It helps with, like, smooth swings. It helps with hard pms. It helps with metabolism. It helps with so many things. I dropped the thing. [01:05:09] Speaker A: It's okay. [01:05:10] Speaker B: So I love that. I also have. [01:05:14] Speaker A: I love your bag, by the way. Like, your bag is giving. It is giving. [01:05:17] Speaker B: It is everything I have Costa Arena. I think that's how you say it. It's like lip balm made from only, like, olive oil. It has, like, clean ingredients. [01:05:25] Speaker A: Oh, that's like our. So my brand, Clean Rebellion, our soap is made only from organic olive oil. Yeah, I love that. Oh, my God. Can I be such a weirdo and smell it? [01:05:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:05:34] Speaker A: Oh, my God, I love that. [01:05:35] Speaker B: And then I have, which I just got out a new one. I have beekeepers immune support. When I talk a lot. This is, like, for my throat. It's propolis. It's just propolis. So I love that. It's a great brand. [01:05:46] Speaker A: It's amazing. [01:05:47] Speaker B: And for the days that I need to wear makeup, so I. I use. Use, like, clean makeup. So I use merit, which I love them. So they're always nice. [01:05:55] Speaker A: What a beautiful shade, too. [01:05:57] Speaker B: Yes. [01:05:58] Speaker A: This is a stunning shade. [01:06:00] Speaker B: So this is what I have. [01:06:01] Speaker A: I. What a cool array of things. Yay. Thank you. I always love seeing people's products because it's like, it gives me ideas, and I always start buying what they buy. Corinne, before we end, where. What are you working on now? And where can we find you online? [01:06:14] Speaker B: So you can find me online. My main platform would be Instagram. So it's Corinna Doney Nutrition and my website Corom. We just launched now our wellness collective which is all of the information like from lectures even for your kids, how to start them, eating healthy, lectures for the parents, kids, obesity, adhd, hormonal balance, weight loss, postpartum, everything, non toxic living, anything you can think of, I created there. So that's one thing that I'm working now, going back into public speaking. I've done it for so long and then I did a pause for a year. Now I'm going back to it. So that's what I'm working now. Also working on more products coming out the pipeline. [01:07:01] Speaker A: Amazing. [01:07:02] Speaker B: A lot into like clean beauty and whatever it is. I always like more stuff to add. [01:07:07] Speaker A: Yes. Yeah. [01:07:08] Speaker B: So yeah, that's where you can find me. [01:07:09] Speaker A: Yay. We'll link up to all of this. [01:07:11] Speaker B: This. [01:07:12] Speaker A: Thank you so much. This has been such a treat. We'll have to have you back because there's so many coming. There's so much to discuss. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. Bye, everyone. [01:07:26] Speaker B: Bye.